Why Are Safety Gates Bad?

[Merlin0402]

I just wanted to know why everybody despises safety gates? What is the problem with them? I personaly don't mind them at all...

 

[MrPromey]

Originally posted by Merlin0402
I just wanted to know why everybody despises safety gates? What is the problem with them? I personaly don't mind them at all...

Do you mean the little gates that keep people from leaping into the water while waiting for their boat on Pirates of the Caribbean?... For me at least, I’ve always felt like cattle being herded through the lines but with these little gates it just seems more so. Even though they don’t really cramp you in, they make the loading areas feel smaller. They are also a reminder of how stupid people can be causing them to be there in the first place… Not the end of the world by any means but I like the parks more without them.

 

[pheneix]

>>>I just wanted to know why everybody despises safety gates?<<<

They kill hourly capacity on attractions like Pirates of the Carribean and Splash Mountain. Yes, the delay is only a few seconds at the time, but they add up quickly.

 

[Scooter]

I spent 10 years as a U.S.D.A. Meat Inspector.

I'm not crazy about those safety gates because they remind me alot of the Chutes used in Slaughter Houses to lead the hogs into the slaughtering area...:lookaroun

I feel as if I'm gonna die now when I get on the rides.

The good news is I feel GREAT when I get OFF the ride knowing I am still alive.:animwink: :lol: :sohappy: :sohappy:

 

[MobileBadBoy]

I don't mind them at all.

And it prevents someone from stepping off the loading platform, and then suing disney for millions after getting hurt.

 

[General Grizz]

I think they're pretty effective. At IASW, a couple years back, a little girl was so excited, she was about to walk into a boat while it was still moving pretty fast, one leg was off the ledge already. They can really make the World safer, for those who are foolish enough to do these things. However, it's sometimes hard with young children.

Since the World will always have these people, I'd say it'd be pretty sad NOT to do it. The saftey gates aren't unattractive or anything, in fact, I found them really neat. Not sure why. It's not like Disney would put the rule in "if you decide to do something stupid, you will die." Then court cases come up, and it becomes pretty messy (in more ways than one ).

Remember, the four keys to the kingdom are Safety, Courtesy, Show, and Efficiency. I believe the new gates are safe, (which is enough to make it be), but are also courteous, and don't ruin the show. It's not too efficient, but it wasn't as efficient before, either.

I don't think they're bad; but remember, the world needs to be a safe one more than anything.

 

[TravisMT81]

why keep the morons safe LOL!!

 

[MobileBadBoy]

I more or less think in the way of looking out for Disney's best interest.

I'm the type that thinks Disney shouldn't serve hot coffee.

 

[Invero]

Originally posted by pheneix
They kill hourly capacity on attractions like Pirates of the Carribean and Splash Mountain. Yes, the delay is only a few seconds at the time, but they add up quickly.

I'm trying to figure out how they kill capacity ratings... Granted, I dont work (nor ever have worked) in Attractions, so I can't use expertice here... but this is how I see it work...

1.) Vehicle pulls up to load zone, and stops.
2.) Guests exit log to left. At same time, gates open.
3.) Guests board from right side.
4.) Gates close, vehicle dispatched.

(An exception would be RnRC since that's unloaded at another location...)

Now, this is how I've always seen it work... the way I figure... the gates open as soon as the vehicle stops, however the guests can't board the ride vehicle until the other guests have exited...

Every time I've ridden a ride with the new air gates, the gates will open, but I still have to wait a second for the other guests to disembark first.

 

[the_snow_prince]

For Disney, the major priority is the guests, so they must do things like adding safety gates to keep all of them safe (even the "morons"). I think it's a good idea.

 

[pheneix]

>>>I'm trying to figure out how they kill capacity ratings<<<

>>>Every time I've ridden a ride with the new air gates, the gates will open, but I still have to wait a second for the other guests to disembark first.<<<

You basically answered your own question. In some cases you may not even have a difference. However, in most cases, you have to wait an extra few seconds for everyone to clear out of the immediate area for the gates to open. An extra 3 seconds here, 5 more there, it adds up FAST when you have hundreds of guests moving through within an hour.

OTH, Disney really doesn't have much of a choice. Though I have the opinion that anyone who is dumb enough to walk into the path of an incoming train on Thunder Mountain deserves what is coming to them, that would not look good on the Orlando Sentinel.

BTW, to show how dumb the world is getting, I remember reading an article is some trade magazine where companies are now trying to advertise on a sixth-grade level, so as not to cause the meaning of the ad to be diminished for the "less enlightened" portion of the audience.

 

[ghosthost14]

I think air gates are cool! and safe:slurp:

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by pheneix
>>>I'm trying to figure out how they kill capacity ratings<<<

>>>Every time I've ridden a ride with the new air gates, the gates will open, but I still have to wait a second for the other guests to disembark first.<<<

You basically answered your own question. In some cases you may not even have a difference. However, in most cases, you have to wait an extra few seconds for everyone to clear out of the immediate area for the gates to open. An extra 3 seconds here, 5 more there, it adds up FAST when you have hundreds of guests moving through within an hour.

OTH, Disney really doesn't have much of a choice. Though I have the opinion that anyone who is dumb enough to walk into the path of an incoming train on Thunder Mountain deserves what is coming to them, that would not look good on the Orlando Sentinel.

BTW, to show how dumb the world is getting, I remember reading an article is some trade magazine where companies are now trying to advertise on a sixth-grade level, so as not to cause the meaning of the ad to be diminished for the "less enlightened" portion of the audience.

I don't really see your point...you would have had to wait for those people to move with or without the gates, so how is the line any worse now? The gates just keep you from getting into the cars/logs/etc. before they stop...and you shouldn't have been doing that before to get the line moving faster anyway! I like how disney themed the gates...like the ones for Splash Mountain that look like logs.

 

[TravisMT81]

I don't really think anything is wrong with air gates. But I guess I am fed up with them having to alter different rides because of people's stupidity.

 

[stepharoni]

Yeah, what happened to "survival of the fittest"? I suppose Disney doesn't need the publicity of handing out a Darwin Award.

 

[pheneix]

>>>you would have had to wait for those people to move with or without the gates<<<

Most people were getting on before the previous party had disembarked. This happen on Splash every time I waited in line for it. In fact, if you had the right cast member there, they would encourage it.

 

[Dizknee_Phreek]

:hammer: :hammer: EQUAL RIGHTS FOR MORONS!!! :hammer: :hammer:

i haven't seen them yet, but i think they're a good idea. Disney can never be too careful....which is a shame when it comes to teens or adults who should most definately know better! Disney is NOT a place to play around...but it's a place to get serious on safety!! lol, j/k!
but grizzlyhall brought up the exact thought i had....small children. despite the good kids, there are plenty of rough-and-tumble types that are just ready to cause trouble for attention. and i can't just blame the kids...parents as well, and of course not every parent...but some. there are the irresponcible parents who just don't care what their kids do.
but in these cases i think the safety gates are a must. and, of course, the 'stupid' people and the crazy kids have just as much right in WDW as we do, so Disney's gotta do what they gotta do to keep everyone safe, and to save their own selves from getting slapped with a lawsuit.
but at least they didn't just quickly throw together some metal gates that stuck out like a sore thumb...at least they did put some 'personality' into them! so i think they work out great, personally!

 

[Kenan]

i was at test track one day waiting in line, and there was a guy and his family in the last pit of of the load side.The two stepped in, while the other was about to take the picutre. now folks, there isnt any time to take pictures on a ride like test track, cause if you take to long you start to back up the ride. anyways, the CM closed the gate and the guy started yelling and didnt know what to do. so the smarty pants, jumped over the gate. one thing is for sure, he is lucky that the cars were not moving, cause he couldve either been crushed, or electricuted. the safety "air" gates, i think are very usable. the CM's might close them on you too soon, but they have a ride to operate, ya know?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by pheneix
>>>you would have had to wait for those people to move with or without the gates<<<

Most people were getting on before the previous party had disembarked. This happen on Splash every time I waited in line for it. In fact, if you had the right cast member there, they would encourage it.

Either way, there are the same number of logs in the water now as there were then, and there has to be the same spacing between the logs every time a new log departs. Therefore the ride cycle has stayed constant. You would just wait longer either at the station or at the first lift hill before. How do I know the ride cycle stays constant? Because every single log that goes over the Briar Patch gets drenched by the log going over the big drop right before entering the second lift hill.

 

[Disneyanna0521]

safety gates

Hey all,
We have to remember 3 things 1)there are alot of crazy/stupid people 2) some of it is little kids not knowing better and 3) some people are talking and lose track of what's going on


a disney nut,

Anna:animwink: