It just makes me mad when Disney decides to make stupid movies like "Around the World in 80 Days", starring Jackie Chan. What the heck is that? I can tell you, even before it goes into production that it will flop. I remember the first time I heard about the making of "The Country Bears"; I couldn't bear to fathom the nonsense and stupidity that must abrupt in the Disney studios. Give me a year with Disney's movie production department and I will make some great movies that people will want to watch. There are more insipid Disney movies out there. If you can think of some, I sure can't (many are forgettable), please post them.:brick:
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What is it with Disney and making stupid movies!
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Shaman
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I doubt that Disney will have a great money-making year like last year when it comes to its movies...while they still have some great movies to come...I think that the success seen in 2003 will not be matched...
If you notice...most of the big movies that will be released are not even being released under the Walt Disney Pictures name...except the Pixar flick...which really isn't Disney...
Its sad...hopefully there will be a turn around...I think there still is hope...
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If you notice...most of the big movies that will be released are not even being released under the Walt Disney Pictures name...except the Pixar flick...which really isn't Disney...
Its sad...hopefully there will be a turn around...I think there still is hope...
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wdwmaniac
Member
Around the World in 80 days is really a Walden Media movie which I think Disney picked up because of Narnia. Thats going to make some money. Also they have dis. Holes and other Walden products. Disney's year is not very impressive as most can see PD 2 will probably be thier biggest this year. But there is a light at the end of the dark tunnel. 2005 is looking really good.
Herbie: Fully Loaded (8/3), Cars (11/4), The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe (12/25), Valiant (Spring 2005), Chicken Little (Summer 2005), the Wild (Summer 2005), The Santa Clause 3 (Winter 2005)
Touchstone: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (6/3/05)
They got some blockbuster on the line up. Cars, Narnia, and Chicken Little I feel will be 250-300 Million grosses. While the Wild, Valiant, and SC3 about 150. And Herbie under 100. And this is still 2004 the line up should only get better we have about 2-3 more movies to add to this list. If they stick to this line up I think Disney could make it to 2 Billion in the US.
Herbie: Fully Loaded (8/3), Cars (11/4), The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe (12/25), Valiant (Spring 2005), Chicken Little (Summer 2005), the Wild (Summer 2005), The Santa Clause 3 (Winter 2005)
Touchstone: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (6/3/05)
They got some blockbuster on the line up. Cars, Narnia, and Chicken Little I feel will be 250-300 Million grosses. While the Wild, Valiant, and SC3 about 150. And Herbie under 100. And this is still 2004 the line up should only get better we have about 2-3 more movies to add to this list. If they stick to this line up I think Disney could make it to 2 Billion in the US.
prberk
Well-Known Member
It all goes back to draining the creative decisions from the creative people and puttting them totally in the hands of "strategic planners." Read that section in savedisney.com . I know people have little tolerance sometimes for towing Roy's line, but he is exactly right here.
The company has begun to put many creative decisions (like which movies to be made or greenlighted) into the hands of strategic planners (i.e., decision by committee) and executives by too large a margin. Yes, it is a business and businesspeople must review and approve budgets and other things, but the genesis of the idea is best coming from artists themselves.
The idea to make "Country Bears" and the other theme park rides was a prime example of decision by committee. Sometimes the committee hits it right ("Pirates"), but many times creative decisions made by committee are just not creative, or are out of touch ("Country Bears"). But most of all, decisions made by committee overall are guaranteed to average out. And average is NOT what serves the creative world the best.
The strategic planners and MBAs in the company, like Roy O., should work in partnership and SUPPORT of the creative side, like Walt. That makes a creative business team, but not a creative movie....
The creative movie will only come when its genesis really comes from creative people or ideas, BEFORE the marketing. Marketing should not be first.
The company has begun to put many creative decisions (like which movies to be made or greenlighted) into the hands of strategic planners (i.e., decision by committee) and executives by too large a margin. Yes, it is a business and businesspeople must review and approve budgets and other things, but the genesis of the idea is best coming from artists themselves.
The idea to make "Country Bears" and the other theme park rides was a prime example of decision by committee. Sometimes the committee hits it right ("Pirates"), but many times creative decisions made by committee are just not creative, or are out of touch ("Country Bears"). But most of all, decisions made by committee overall are guaranteed to average out. And average is NOT what serves the creative world the best.
The strategic planners and MBAs in the company, like Roy O., should work in partnership and SUPPORT of the creative side, like Walt. That makes a creative business team, but not a creative movie....
The creative movie will only come when its genesis really comes from creative people or ideas, BEFORE the marketing. Marketing should not be first.
imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
It was based off of the TV show that showed on ABC kids ( which I never cared for ) and I thought the show was cancelled, and yet they make a movie out of it?!
DisneyFan 2000
Well-Known Member
Well I have to agree, EXCEPT for Brother Bear! That movie is simply amazing in every aspect! Comedy, story, great animation, action, family quality and music (too bad it isn't a character musical).Maybe there's still hope for Disney's storytelling?
catinthehat
New Member
I'm looking forward to Around the World in 80 Days, too. It has a great cast with lots of fun actors showing up in it. Kids will like it, I'm sure. And it's gotta be better than Garfield!
Disney's going to have another great year, I'm sure. The Touchstone arm has lots of big movies like The village and King Arthur this summer.
Disney's going to have another great year, I'm sure. The Touchstone arm has lots of big movies like The village and King Arthur this summer.