What’s worse? 1995-2003 or 2017-Current?

[MK-fan]

From 1995-2003, there were many unpopular bonehead decisions and various problems throughout the resort, the guest experience was severely lacking and we all know how bad it got but here is a list:

1. Thunder Mountain Accident
2. Columbia Ship Accident
3. Plaza Pavilion closure
4. Park begins to sell more generic merch
5. Penny Arcade become a store
6. Light Magic!
7. Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
8. Cascade Peak is torn down
9. New Tomorrowland
10. One of a Kind shop closes
11. PeopleMover closes
12. Rocket Jets close
13. Circle-Vision closes
14. Mike Fink Keelboat accident
15. Swiss Family Treehouse is rethemed
16. Hideous Club Buzz Stage
17. Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough closes
18. Submarine Voyage closes
19. Starcade begins to close starting with the upper floor
20. Space Mountain is forced to close in 2003 to prevent accidents to yo the extra weight added from the speakers out in years prior
21. Main Street Electrical Parade has it’s “Final Season”
22. Enchanted Tiki Room show length is shortened
23. Aladdin’s Oasis fails as a restaurant and closes
24. Mike Fink Keelboats closure
25. Many Toontown features are taken out
26. Loss of the left side Mary Blair Murals
27. PC Pirates revamp
28. Space Mountain Speed ramp catches fire and is removed
29. Burning Settler’s Cabin no longer catches fire
30. Woody’s Roundup show at the Gilden Horseshoe is a big dud
31. Carnation Gardens closes it’s food offerings
32. Rocket Rods close with no replacement
33. Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln renovation with headphones
34. Mickey’s Detective School show
35. Jolly Trolley closure
36. Tom Sawyer Island is neutered and Fort Wilderness closes
37. Radio Disney live Booth in Tomorrowland
38. Disney’s California Adventure
39. Park maintenance is cut
40. Ride rehabs are cut
41. Uti Tiki god falls into disrepair and collapses and never returns
42. X-Games Xperience
43. Teddi Berras Swingin’ Arcade closes

From 2017 to Today, there are not as many closures or accidents for that matter but the guest experience has significantly suffered almost to the point where Disney hardly cares about the guest experience at all, here is a list:

1. Tiana’s Bayou Adventure doesn’t hit the mark
2. Continuing High Prices on passes and tickets
3. Free fastpass ends
4. Theme Park entertainment is cut significantly
5. Reservation System
6. Avengers Campus
7. Madame Leota Store
8. Pixar Pier
9. San Fransokyo
10. Main Street Cinema becomes a store (momentarily)
11. Low moral among Disneyland employees
12. Genie Plus causes long lines for park guests
13. Lightning Lane
14. Splash Mountain closes
15. Mobile ordering
16. Lines to get into the park are insane
17. Guardians Mission Breakout is horrendous looking
18. Hyperion Theater is shuttered
19. Tower of Terror closes
20. Fantasyland Theater is shuttered
21. Paint the Night is hardly every used
22. Magic Happens is hardly ever used
23. High priced exclusive events
24. Galaxy’s Edge lacks life and more roaming characters
25. Fantasmic! Is constantly down
26. Tomorrowland terrace has no more bands and only puts on kids dance shows
27. New Tomorrowland entrance is delayed indefinitely
28. Cable Cars removed
29. Bluesky Cellar becomes DVC
30. Excessive ride breakdowns

I know 95-03 was horrendously worse due to the two deaths that occurred and it could be a one-sided argument because of it.

What would you say is worse?

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

It was really interesting to me how frank The Imagineering Story was about the Pressler era and how they ruthlessly threw Pressler under the bus in it, even though he himself was a featured interview (although the reason they did this was so they could setup Iger as the savior later in the series).

It makes me wonder if things ever improve in the future if the company will openly look back on this era as a mistake.

 

[shambolicdefending]

The Pressler Era was way worse than anything under the Bobs. Not even a comparison in my mind.

 

[Touchdown]

The Iger years have thus far not seen a death of a park guest due to an attraction. Thus my answer is no, it’s not worse.

 

[John park hopper]

Worse now IMO the explosion of DVC and no new themed resorts has made it worse

 

[denyuntilcaught]

Pressler Era was, hands down, way worse.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The Iger years have thus far not seen a death of a park guest due to an attraction. Thus my answer is no, it’s not worse.

Agreed. Also, While there have been cutbacks in landscaping etc. the parks and resorts still look good - the Pressler era got really rough.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

The Pressler era, definitely. His "efforts" damaged Walt's park. The later era's mistakes were mostly money grabs and DCA disasters. DCA means far less to the hardcore Disney fan base than the original Magic Kingdom I would guess.

 

[Disstevefan1]

From 1995-2003, there were many unpopular bonehead decisions and various problems throughout the resort, the guest experience was severely lacking and we all know how bad it got but here is a list:

1. Thunder Mountain Accident
2. Columbia Ship Accident
3. Plaza Pavilion closure
4. Park begins to sell more generic merch
5. Penny Arcade become a store
6. Light Magic!
7. Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
8. Cascade Peak is torn down
9. New Tomorrowland
10. One of a Kind shop closes
11. PeopleMover closes
12. Rocket Jets close
13. Circle-Vision closes
14. Mike Fink Keelboat accident
15. Swiss Family Treehouse is rethemed
16. Hideous Club Buzz Stage
17. Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough closes
18. Submarine Voyage closes
19. Starcade begins to close starting with the upper floor
20. Space Mountain is forced to close in 2003 to prevent accidents to yo the extra weight added from the speakers out in years prior
21. Main Street Electrical Parade has it’s “Final Season”
22. Enchanted Tiki Room show length is shortened
23. Aladdin’s Oasis fails as a restaurant and closes
24. Mike Fink Keelboats closure
25. Many Toontown features are taken out
26. Loss of the left side Mary Blair Murals
27. PC Pirates revamp
28. Space Mountain Speed ramp catches fire and is removed
29. Burning Settler’s Cabin no longer catches fire
30. Woody’s Roundup show at the Gilden Horseshoe is a big dud
31. Carnation Gardens closes it’s food offerings
32. Rocket Rods close with no replacement
33. Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln renovation with headphones
34. Mickey’s Detective School show
35. Jolly Trolley closure
36. Tom Sawyer Island is neutered and Fort Wilderness closes
37. Radio Disney live Booth in Tomorrowland
38. Disney’s California Adventure
39. Park maintenance is cut
40. Ride rehabs are cut
41. Uti Tiki god falls into disrepair and collapses and never returns
42. X-Games Xperience
43. Teddi Berras Swingin’ Arcade closes

From 2017 to Today, there are not as many closures or accidents for that matter but the guest experience has significantly suffered almost to the point where Disney hardly cares about the guest experience at all, here is a list:

1. Tiana’s Bayou Adventure doesn’t hit the mark
2. Continuing High Prices on passes and tickets
3. Free fastpass ends
4. Theme Park entertainment is cut significantly
5. Reservation System
6. Avengers Campus
7. Madame Leota Store
8. Pixar Pier
9. San Fransokyo
10. Main Street Cinema becomes a store (momentarily)
11. Low moral among Disneyland employees
12. Genie Plus causes long lines for park guests
13. Lightning Lane
14. Splash Mountain closes
15. Mobile ordering
16. Lines to get into the park are insane
17. Guardians Mission Breakout is horrendous looking
18. Hyperion Theater is shuttered
19. Tower of Terror closes
20. Fantasyland Theater is shuttered
21. Paint the Night is hardly every used
22. Magic Happens is hardly ever used
23. High priced exclusive events
24. Galaxy’s Edge lacks life and more roaming characters
25. Fantasmic! Is constantly down
26. Tomorrowland terrace has no more bands and only puts on kids dance shows
27. New Tomorrowland entrance is delayed indefinitely
28. Cable Cars removed
29. Bluesky Cellar becomes DVC
30. Excessive ride breakdowns

I know 95-03 was horrendously worse due to the two deaths that occurred and it could be a one-sided argument because of it.

What would you say is worse?

I can only speak for my family. My family has a better gust experience during 1995-2003

 

[Phroobar]

The Pressler/Harris era was worst simply because no one has died....yet.

 

[Phroobar]

The Eisner era was probably the best since losing Walt. Before that the park was kind of ignored as they tried to find direction. Even that era was not as bad as 1995-now.