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FutureCEO

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U.S. Culture Still Has Fans
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By SONYA ROSS, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - In the eyes of much of the world, this is America: an inconsiderate lone wolf that has really good entertainment but really bad values, that wants war with Iraq just to get oil but still should remain as the only superpower on Earth.

In a broad international survey released Wednesday, the Pew Global Attitudes Project found that the United States is falling out of favor in 19 of 27 countries where a trend could be identified.

The dislike was especially striking in Muslim countries. Seventy-five percent of those surveyed in Jordan had an unfavorable opinion of America, as did 69 percent of Egyptians and Pakistanis and 59 percent of Lebanese. In Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia, Senegal, Turkey and Lebanon, the vast majority said they oppose the U.S.-led war on terrorism.

But ill will toward the United States was also found in supposedly friendly nations like Canada, Britain and Germany.

"The biggest headline is the slipping image of the United States, not simply that we're not liked in the Muslim world," said Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center. "But there is still a great reserve of good will toward the United States."

The surveys in 44 countries were conducted by established survey organizations in each country between July and October, with polls done by phone in eight of the most developed countries and face-to-face in the others. The error margins ranged from plus or minus 2 percentage points to 4.5 points, depending on the sample size.

A generally favorable view of America is held in 35 of the 42 countries that took part in the survey. Among Russians, U.S. popularity has surged 24 points, from 37 percent two years ago to 61 percent today. Similarly, 77 percent of Nigerians and 85 percent of Uzbeks had pro-U.S. views, up 31 percent and 29 percent respectively.

The most common criticisms of the United States are that it acts by itself, it pushes policies that widen the gap between rich and poor nations, and it doesn't do enough to solve the world's problems.

Americans don't necessarily agree.

Seventy-five percent of Americans polled said U.S. foreign policy is considerate of others. But next door, only 25 percent of Canadians said America is a considerate world citizen. Perhaps surprisingly, U.S. foreign policy was deemed considerate by 53 percent of respondents in Germany, a harsh critic of President Bush (news - web sites)'s position on Iraq.

World citizens admire American technology and culture, but not the spread of U.S. ideas and customs; 54 percent of Canadians, 67 percent of Germans, 71 percent of the French and 84 percent of Egyptians said it would be bad to spread American ideas and customs.

But Canadians — 77 percent of them — also said they like American music, movies and TV. It was much the same for Venezuela (78 percent), Poland (70 percent), Japan (74 percent), Ivory Coast (84 percent) and Great Britain (76 percent).

U.S. officials have tried to do something about America's image problem abroad. The White House established an office of "global communications" to provide in-depth explanations of President Bush's foreign policy.

Madeleine Albright secretary of state during the Clinton administration and chair of the Pew survey, said the fact that the United States is the world's only superpower may have led to the results.

"In many ways, we are viewed as the rich guy living on the hill," Albright said. "We have seen this coming since the end of the Cold War."

Most of the people surveyed said they don't want the world to again have more than one superpower. Even in Russia, 53 percent said they believe the world is safer with just one.

In Germany, the percentage of people who hold a favorable view of the United States fell 17 points over two years. In 1999/2000, 78 percent of Germans considered the United States favorably, this year 61 percent.

In Turkey, which is being actively courted for help in a possible war with Iraq, pro-U.S. views dropped from 52 percent to 30 percent.

Sentiments were similar in Argentina, where 34 percent saw the United States in a good light, compared to 50 percent two years ago. In Indonesia and the Slovak Republic, favorable ratings fell 14 points.

Large percentages of Muslim respondents in several countries said they believe suicide bomb attacks are a justifiable defense of Islam. This was especially so in Lebanon, where 73 percent supported this belief.

Also, 21 countries rated the news media as a good influence, while the military was seen as a good influence in 15 countries. Five gave the top rating in influence to religious leaders. Only one, Ivory Coast, said the national government is the top influence.

In six countries — Britain, France, Germany, Russia, Turkey and the United States — the majority said Iraq poses a great or moderate threat to the world, and Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) must go.

Only 22 percent of Americans said oil is the United States' real motive for pursuing war with Iraq, but 44 percent of the British, 75 percent of the French, 54 percent of Germans and 76 percent of Russians held that view.

When it comes to conditions at home, Uzbeks and the Vietnamese were the happiest of all. Sixty-nine percent said they are satisfied with the state of their countries. In Peru and Argentina, only 3 percent of respondents said they are pleased with the way things are at home.

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CmdrTostada

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I think that one of the reasons that a lot of the world does not like the US is because we are prosperous. They know that their leftist views and ideas have left them third world countries and many of are citizen's fight against socialism has help keep us a First world country. Yet, sadly, somehow many of these countries still believe in socialism.
 

FutureCEO

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Originally posted by Turbogames
I think that one of the reasons that a lot of the world does not like the US is because we are prosperous. They know that their leftist views and ideas have left them third world countries and many of are citizens fight against socialism has help keep us a First world country. Yet, sadly, somehow many of these countries still believe in socialism.

true. we're rich their poor--plain and simple. Poor coutries will go with anything and follow anyone
 

Testtrack321

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In the eyes of much of the world, this is America: an inconsiderate lone wolf that has really good entertainment but really bad values, that wants war with Iraq just to get oil but still should remain as the only superpower on Earth.

That's sad. Our nation sumerized in one sentence.
 

MKCustodial

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Originally posted by Turbogames
I think that one of the reasons that a lot of the world does not like the US is because we are prosperous. They know that their leftist views and ideas have left them third world countries and many of are citizen's fight against socialism has help keep us a First world country. Yet, sadly, somehow many of these countries still believe in socialism.

In fact, many people don't like the US bexactly because of comments like this.

I said to myself I'd keep away from these kinds of threads, but...

Seriously, and I don't wanna get flamed, the US only cares to other countries when there's something of interest to them. And this is not wrong, obviously. But the country, and some of its people, need to stop thinking like the world revolves around them and that nobody does anything without consulting or worrying about them first. This may be true economically, but nobody spends the whole day thinking "Gee, I wonder if the US likes my country?"


Me, I love the US, and I really wish I could get to move up there one day. But I don't like Bush and the present government, I think he's not very good on international politics, and some of his decisions are baffling, like the whole Environmental issues he's been raising lately. He's about to meet with our president soon, let's see how that goes.

So, again, I don't want to offend anyone nor do I want to start a war here, but when I see comments like Turbo's that imply that EVERYBODY is jealous of the US? Come on! There's truth in his declarations, but you can't generalize.
 

SpongeScott

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Sad that we are viewed this way, but not surprising. We are a nation of self-gratification that takes a lot of things for granted, and nothing has really changed since 9/11. Gone is the rallying behind the flag as one people and back is the political bickering and backstabbing, even on this forum (was Clinton bashed this bad when he was president on this forum?). Too bad that we can't stay united behind our leaders who are working to protect us.

And I don't understand the "we want oil" issue. Perhaps someone outside of the States could shed some light on that? Why are we perceived in that way with IRaq?
 

MKCustodial

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Originally posted by sandjhooker
And I don't understand the "we want oil" issue. Perhaps someone outside of the States could shed some light on that? Why are we perceived in that way with IRaq?

Because that's exactly what it seems. No matter what kind of source you look for, TV, Internet or paper. In the beginning, it looked like you were trying to be careful and prevent another attack. Now, it just seems you're after the oil. I think it started after the UN said that they were going to send people to Iraq and Bush said "Screw it, we're going in anyway."
 

wdwmagic

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Originally posted by sandjhooker

And I don't understand the "we want oil" issue. Perhaps someone outside of the States could shed some light on that? Why are we perceived in that way with IRaq?

It seems to me that some countries are attempting to turn a blind eye to the threat Iraq poses as a terrorist sponsoring state, and supplier/user of weapons of mass destruction. They are happy to pretend the threat doesnt exist, and then they need to look for an alternative motive to explain why the USA and the UK wish to disarm Iraq. They therefore turn to the issue of oil as their explaination of our motives.
 

SpongeScott

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Originally posted by wdwmagic
It seems to me that some countries are attempting to turn a blind eye to the threat Iraq poses as a terrorist sponsoring state, and supplier/user of weapons of mass destruction. They are happy to pretend the threat doesnt exist, and then they need to look for an alternative motive to explain why the USA and the UK wish to disarm Iraq. They therefore turn to the issue of oil as their explaination of our motives.
Well, there are two answers to my question and I think I agree with your answer best, Steve. Where is the outcry against Saddam for his dictatorship and his murdering of people in his country? And the threat of his weaponry? I have heard--from American sources--that the countries around Iraq really don't care for Saddam at all, but cannot/will not say anything; they just privately hope that the U.S. will take care of him.

Back to the original thread, it saddens me that people around the world look at us in the way they do, especially after we have helped and assisted so many people around the world. Not to say we haven't made some mistakes, but we have been a country of goodwill in a lot of ways. We gave the world Disney!!!!
 

wdwmagic

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Originally posted by sandjhooker
Well, there are two answers to my question and I think I agree with your answer best, Steve. Where is the outcry against Saddam for his dictatorship and his murdering of people in his country? And the threat of his weaponry? I have heard--from American sources--that the countries around Iraq really don't care for Saddam at all, but cannot/will not say anything; they just privately hope that the U.S. will take care of him.

On the subject of oil, wasn't it the case that Russia and France were fighting the USA/UK UN resolution over fears that a post-Saddam occupation of Iraq by the USA/UK would render Russia and France's oil fields in Iraq (which they own huge stakes in) worthless? So if there is a finger to be pointed in respect to issues over oil, I think it is worth looking towards France and Russia maybe.
 

SpongeScott

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Originally posted by wdwmagic
On the subject of oil, wasn't it the case that Russia and France were fighting the USA/UK UN resolution over fears that a post-Saddam occupation of Iraq by the USA/UK would render Russia and France's oil fields in Iraq (which they own huge stakes in) worthless? So if there is a finger to be pointed in respect to issues over oil, I think it is worth looking towards France and Russia maybe.
Makes sense since 75% of the people in France think we're doing it over oil. I found that %age to be very high for an American "ally".
 

Horizons38

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Originally posted by MKCustodial
In fact, many people don't like the US bexactly because of comments like this.

I said to myself I'd keep away from these kinds of threads, but...

Seriously, and I don't wanna get flamed, the US only cares to other countries when there's something of interest to them. And this is not wrong, obviously. But the country, and some of its people, need to stop thinking like the world revolves around them and that nobody does anything without consulting or worrying about them first. This may be true economically, but nobody spends the whole day thinking "Gee, I wonder if the US likes my country?"


Me, I love the US, and I really wish I could get to move up there one day. But I don't like Bush and the present government, I think he's not very good on international politics, and some of his decisions are baffling, like the whole Environmental issues he's been raising lately. He's about to meet with our president soon, let's see how that goes.

So, again, I don't want to offend anyone nor do I want to start a war here, but when I see comments like Turbo's that imply that EVERYBODY is jealous of the US? Come on! There's truth in his declarations, but you can't generalize.

Agree with you ! Here is a little bit of an article that was at Salon.com ( can't post the link you have to be a member) :

Couple of reasons Canada might have a problem with Bush : When the US prepared to attack the Taliban Bush called for allied support , Canada responded by sending troops to Afghanistan. And how did the president say Thank you ? By imposing a massive tariff on Canadian softwood lumber, a tariff that threatened doom for the West coast lumber industry and made a mockery of our vaunted Free trade agreement( mention the supposedly fundamental Republican commitment to free trade ) World trade organization criticized the US tariff as pure politics. The Canadian governement howled,no matter.
Meanwhile four Canadian troops were killed in Afghanistan when an overzealous American pilot bombed them during an training exercise. The military investigation was secretive and grudging, while Michigan politicians began raising money to protect the US pilots from a " witch hunt".
and Canadians asked : Is this how America rewards it's friends ? Listen as i said before , i am a Canadian (obviously) living in the US which i love as my adopted country , i am here because i met and fell in love with my hubby a US citizen born and raised here. I love the people , i just do not like the present political regime. For once some people might try to see this from another countries point of view, most Canadians love Americans they just have a problem like i do with the politics and the way they affect us ! Ok, go ahead now i'm ready !:cool:
 

Maria

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Originally posted by MKCustodial
In fact, many people don't like the US exactly because of comments like this.

I said to myself I'd keep away from these kinds of threads, but...

Seriously, and I don't wanna get flamed, the US only cares to other countries when there's something of interest to them. And this is not wrong, obviously. But the country, and some of its people, need to stop thinking like the world revolves around them and that nobody does anything without consulting or worrying about them first. This may be true economically, but nobody spends the whole day thinking "Gee, I wonder if the US likes my country?"

So, again, I don't want to offend anyone nor do I want to start a war here, but when I see comments like Turbo's that imply that EVERYBODY is jealous of the US? Come on! There's truth in his declarations, but you can't generalize.


I have to agree with you! Comments like Turbogames´s and Future Ceo´s: "true. we're rich their poor--plain and simple. Poor coutries will go with anything and follow anyone" just make me want to :hurl:
 

dreamer

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Originally posted by wdwmagic
It seems to me that some countries are attempting to turn a blind eye to the threat Iraq poses as a terrorist sponsoring state, and supplier/user of weapons of mass destruction. They are happy to pretend the threat doesnt exist, and then they need to look for an alternative motive to explain why the USA and the UK wish to disarm Iraq. They therefore turn to the issue of oil as their explaination of our motives.



Would you say this is the majority opinion in England? Just curious.


I agree that Iraq's military threat is the #1 issue and am amazed at how many people dismiss it or play it down. As I said in another (now erased) thread, the chance of avoiding war is greater if Iraq perceives our threat as credible and massive.


I'm also amazed the way the media plays along with the UN inspection charade as if Iraq may actually be telling the truth about having no weapons of mass destruction. Does anyone here actually believe Saddam got rid of all his weapons of mass destruction?
 

dreamer

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Here's what I think about people in the US.

We are for the most part selfish and overstuffed with material possessions. We are brainwashed by our culture to believe we need more, more, more.

We put a bumper sticker on our car that says peace, or save the rainforest or save the whales to make us feel like activists, but our car uses 40 gallons of gas a week.

We don't want to fight for oil, but we don't stop driving. I bet that people AGAINST war with Iraq drive just as much as people FOR war. If somebody out there tells me that they don't want us to fight for oil, then they better tell me in the same breath HOW they are cutting their personal energy consumption IN HALF.


You think we'd have Disney World without TONS of oil? Wrong. We'd be lucky to have dinner. Fighting for oil is fighting for our way of life. There are only two other options: use less energy (which ain't happening) or find an alternate energy source -- nuclear anybody??


One last note. If I were impoverished in the Middle East and saw oil pumping out of my back yard going to fuel the buses at Disney World while I was scraping for scraps to feed my kids, I think I'd resent the US a little too.




Whew. Now I feel better. I hope no one is offended. I just had to get that out.
 

MrPromey

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Originally posted by dreamer

One last note. If I were impoverished in the Middle East and saw oil pumping out of my back yard going to fuel the buses at Disney World while I was scraping for scraps to feed my kids, I think I'd resent the US a little too.


You would resent the US for this? Why?

Assuming I was educated enough and knew enough about what was going on to realize that my government was the one agreeing to all of this I think my resentment would be directed more towards them for not giving me more. As a impoverished person from the Middle East, that oil would mean very little to me but some of that money that the royalty and/or the administration of my country is making wouldn't hurt... Then again, that would require me to realize that I'm being totally scr%#ed by those people that are supposed to be protecting me. I mean, Sadam has how many palaces?

We are not stealing anything from these countries anymore than Russia and France and many others are. We are buying it and somebody in those countries is getting ridiculously rich off it living better than you or I (You know, the ones that are "selfish and overstuffed with material possessions") ever will. Osama lists the west 'raping' their lands of their oil as one of the justifications of his attacks. Umm, hello, we buy this stuff. As a matter of fact, we don't just buy it, in many cases, we are responsible for them even being able to get at it and last time I checked, they weren't eating it or making cloths out of it or anything else. I read somewhere years ago that Hawaii was the worlds largest producer of pineapples. You don't hear the people there crying that they are being raped of their fruit, do you? Of course not, they are too busy cashing the checks...

One last note: I heard a blip on news radio that hydrogen powered cars should be in factory production and available in dealer showrooms by 2010. Lets see how happy ALL of the middle east is when we manage to reduce the need for their fuel. I wonder if they will be happy knowing that they get to keep all their precious oil.


I know that I'm oversimplifying things and that I as well as most Americans, take for granted how good we've got it but if you look at many (by no means all) of the countries where people are living in squalor, there is usually a government that abuses it's people. Look at Afghanistan. The Taliban made billions off the sale of opium. Did they set up health plans for the people? Did they feed their citizens or work towards educating them?

I know that I sound argumentative but I'm not looking to start trouble. It just makes me a little angry when the world tells us that they want us to be the only super-power and that we should do more for other countries but that we also get into others business too often. They say they like our entertainment but not our values which is quite possibly most reflected by our entertainment... Huh? Can we say "jumbo shrimp"? Anyone else got some good oxymorons they'd like to shout out?
 

Maria

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Originally posted by MrPromey
It just makes me a little angry when the world tells us that they want us to be the only super-power and that we should do more for other countries

MrP.... that sounded a bit too obnoxious...
 

MrPromey

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Originally posted by Maria
MrP.... that sounded a bit too obnoxious...

:p Ever consider working for a state controlled press? :lol:









I'm assuming you are joking due to the glaring omission of the second half of that sentence.
:lookaroun
 

wdwmagic

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Originally posted by MrPromey
You would resent the US for this? Why?

Assuming I was educated enough and knew enough about what was going on to realize that my government was the one agreeing to all of this I think my resentment would be directed more towards them for not giving me more. As a impoverished person from the Middle East, that oil would mean very little to me but some of that money that the royalty and/or the administration of my country is making wouldn't hurt... Then again, that would require me to realize that I'm being totally scr%#ed by those people that are supposed to be protecting me. I mean, Sadam has how many palaces?


This is exactly the point. The middle east countries have vast amounts of oil, of which the people in power there are earning huge amounts of money by selling it to the West. The fact that these monies are not being distributed to the people in those countries is no fault of the West. It is up to the people in those countries to overthrow the dictators running their countries, and share the wealth of the oil amongst the people, not just the few in power.
 
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