USCreative: Revenge of the Mummy

[pyschotropic]

What does everyone think of Universal Studios announcement about the new Revenge of the Mummy darkride coaster. This is
going to be an abosolute unique experience when it opens something that's never been done before and the attention to detail will outmatch any other themepark ride in realism and special effects on a scale even grander than Pirates of the Carribean. The ride will be so well themed it will take you straight into the world of The Mummy I could only imagine the skeleton warriors that will actually jump onto your coaster car and attack you just like the movie, the audio-animatronics will be the most advanced ever I guess they would have to be to really pull that one off however it will be amazing to see a how this ride turns out especially the whole ride system which is still not fully known yet however I think it will definitely steal attention from Disney when it opens!

 

[Natelox]

I don't think its going to be as amazing as everythinks its gonna be. Themeparks, esspically universal, like to bend the truth to make rides more appealing. Calling the ride an "abosolute unique experience" is a bit much, for its just a highly themed roller coaster. "The ride will be so well themed it will take you straight into the world of The Mummy", i don't see how this is any differant than any disney ride. All disney's themed sections "take you into" a new land and setting. Kiliminjaro Safaris puts you in africa and ToT puts you in a haunted hotel...Also, consider how old Pirates of the Carribean is. If disney were to bother to try competing with such a ride, i really think they could, but they have their own agenda.

I remember reading something about there would be a fire 2000F burning inches from your head. I sure don't want to be the first person on that ride, and i also would not want to grow any taller than what i am now.

 

[Monorail Green]

What ?!

dude universal has always come through when they promise something is going to be a completely unique ride. take the amazing adventures of spiderman for example, this is a one of a kind ride, try to find this ride anywhere else in the world, you can't. and furtherr more universal has done more then just one unique ride, look at the incredible hulk and dueling dragons , those are unique as well. so when universal has something up its sleeve like the mummy and announces its gonna be a unique experiance, you better believe its gonna be unique. plus its been 10 years in the making, how much could they screw it up with that much time?

 

[imagineer boy]

Re: What ?!

Originally posted by Monorail Green
dude universal has always come through when they promise something is going to be a completely unique ride. take the amazing adventures of spiderman for example, this is a one of a kind ride, try to find this ride anywhere else in the world, you can't. and furtherr more universal has done more then just one unique ride, look at the incredible hulk and dueling dragons , those are unique as well. so when universal has something up its sleeve like the mummy and announces its gonna be a unique experiance, you better believe its gonna be unique. plus its been 10 years in the making, how much could they screw it up with that much time?

Maybe a unique roller coaster. But I'm not expecting much. The themeing to the Mummy, big deal. They've done that already at Universal hollywood. Best special effects even grander than PotC? We'll see about that. Most advance AAs ever? More likely the best AAs that Universal's ever done.:lol: I know the Hulk and Dueling Dragons are unique, but they don't have very good story lines. For teh Hulk, the qeue tells a nice story, but once you get on the coster, the story is gone. Zooming around at high speed through many loops has nothing to do with the story. Same thing with dueling dragons, the qeue tells the story of the Dragons, but why the heck are you getting in some coasters at the end? Stealing attention from Disney huh? Mission: Space will take care of that. These are just my opinions.

 

[Natelox]

Re: What ?!

Originally posted by Monorail Green
amazing adventures of spiderman for example, this is a one of a kind ride, try to find this ride anywhere else in the world, you can't. and furtherr more universal has done more then just one unique ride, look at the incredible hulk and dueling dragons , those are unique as well.

Yes, Spiderman is original, BUT, that is one ride that Universal has made, as compared to how many original disney rides? Also, The Hulk and DD are not unique at all, they are just roller coasters. The launch for the Hulk was first created at Disneyland Paris on Space Mountain. The dueling effect for DD, was original with a wooden coaster, but it was modifed for an inverted coaster here. I guess i'm turning this into a Disney vs. Universal thing, but all i'm really trying to say is that i don't expect that much from anything Universal.

 

[Monorail Green]

The Incredible Hulk roller coaster is a unique ride, sorry if i didnt clarify why it was unique before, i thought you had rode the best roller coaster in north america voted by travel channel viewers, my mistake. the launch sequence that they have achieved has never been done before, even at disneyland paris. the launch is the same,yes, but the zero G roll 110 ft in the air is a first after a lift hill. no other coaster has that element 110 ft in the air right aftetr an uphilled launch. the dragons on the other hand are also a pair of very unique coasters. the concept of inverted roller coasters coming within inches of each other has never been accomplished before universal had done it with the dueling dragons. dueling wooden coasters dont come close to what the dragons do. ive been on gwazi and the duels on that ride were not even close after riding the dragons. so as you can see universal doesnt have just one unique ride on property, they have several. men in black is another example, yes it is similar to buzz lightyear, just geared to more hmmm how should i put this, kids older then 7. it is the first ride to have multiple different endings based upon the score of your party in the vehicle. so once again don't under estimate universal when thye promise another unique ride in the revenge of the mummy.

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by Monorail Green
The Incredible Hulk roller coaster is a unique ride, sorry if i didnt clarify why it was unique before, i thought you had rode the best roller coaster in north america voted by travel channel viewers, my mistake. the launch sequence that they have achieved has never been done before, even at disneyland paris. the launch is the same,yes, but the zero G roll 110 ft in the air is a first after a lift hill. no other coaster has that element 110 ft in the air right aftetr an uphilled launch. the dragons on the other hand are also a pair of very unique coasters. the concept of inverted roller coasters coming within inches of each other has never been accomplished before universal had done it with the dueling dragons. dueling wooden coasters dont come close to what the dragons do. ive been on gwazi and the duels on that ride were not even close after riding the dragons. so as you can see universal doesnt have just one unique ride on property, they have several. men in black is another example, yes it is similar to buzz lightyear, just geared to more hmmm how should i put this, kids older then 7. it is the first ride to have multiple different endings based upon the score of your party in the vehicle. so once again don't under estimate universal when thye promise another unique ride in the revenge of the mummy.

Dueling Dragons and the Hulk are unique in thrills, but not in story. If they had better stroies, they would be ALOT more thrilling. Look at Expedition Everest, if it didn't have the story of the mountain and it was just a plain rollercoaster, it would still be thrilling since it would have the backwards drop in the ride, and be an exiting thrill ride, but with the mountain, story, and abonidable snow man encounters will definately add more thrill. As for men in black, its not the first ride to have multiple endings. THe Indiana Jones Adventure ride in DL was the first to do this. I'm still not expecting much from Universal.

 

[Natelox]

Originally posted by Monorail Green
The Incredible Hulk roller coaster is a unique ride, sorry if i didnt clarify why it was unique before, i thought you had rode the best roller coaster in north america voted by travel channel viewers, my mistake.

Just because it was rated the best roller coaster, doesn't mean that one, i think it's the best, and two, that it's unique. I really loved the Hulk, it was a great ride (not my favorite though, Coaster at Playland in Vancouver is). The hulk is just a coaster, nothing hugely unique. Also, DD was made and designed by B&M of Switzerland, so don't think Universal is all that, they didn't design it.

Men in black, original? No way, Disney had buzz before, and the idea of a different ending was first accomplished with Indy at DL.

Just to let you know, i'll keep telling you that it won't be amazing, and that disney is better, and you'll keep telling me that it will be amazing and universal is better. Take this to a universal fan-site, not to a disney one.

 

[dizpins14]

i thought you had rode the best roller coaster in north america voted by travel channel viewers, my mistake

See the only problem with that poll is, that when it was taken Travel Channel had only Universal specials on at the time. More recently have they been looking at Disney and giving the credit they deserve as well as other parks. Of course it was voted best coaster by viewers if it was only but a handful of coasters shown on the channel.

Plus..........this is voted by television viewers, that doesn't mean they actually rode the ride. Meaning a lot of people probably voted for it cause they liked the Hulk.

Universal has always tried to pass off their new things as inovative when they almost always take a Disney idea and tweek it a little.

 

[daniam2188]

Originally posted by Monorail Green
The Incredible Hulk roller coaster is a unique ride, sorry if i didnt clarify why it was unique before, i thought you had rode the best roller coaster in north america voted by travel channel viewers, my mistake. the launch sequence that they have achieved has never been done before, even at disneyland paris. the launch is the same,yes, but the zero G roll 110 ft in the air is a first after a lift hill. no other coaster has that element 110 ft in the air right aftetr an uphilled launch. the dragons on the other hand are also a pair of very unique coasters. the concept of inverted roller coasters coming within inches of each other has never been accomplished before universal had done it with the dueling dragons. dueling wooden coasters dont come close to what the dragons do. ive been on gwazi and the duels on that ride were not even close after riding the dragons. so as you can see universal doesnt have just one unique ride on property, they have several. men in black is another example, yes it is similar to buzz lightyear, just geared to more hmmm how should i put this, kids older then 7. it is the first ride to have multiple different endings based upon the score of your party in the vehicle. so once again don't under estimate universal when thye promise another unique ride in the revenge of the mummy.

hmmmmmm so how long have you worked for universal?

 

[mcbooty]

mummy ride

well i've been fortunate enough to be a part of the preparations to the opening of the Revenge of the Mummy ride, and it is indeed a one of a kind, never before seen or experienced thrill ride. The ride in and of itself is impeccable, the queue line is flawless, and the only people who wouldn't get the theming of the ride are people who are just anticipating a ride and don't pay attention to detail (Just for your information, the concept is that Universal is making the third film of the Mummy series, but a few artifacts on set "may" contain the elements that can resurrect Imhotep, which is obviously what happens). The queue starts off as a production set, and becomes an ancient Egyptian temple (leading you to wonder if there really is a film, or if it was just a big hoax to gather pour defenseless souls into Imhotep's chamber) filled with hieroglyphs that tell the Imhotep's story, as well as numerous sights and gags to keep you guessing. That's just the queue, which already puts to rest the argument of how meticulous the creative team has done with theming the ride.

Now, the ride itself puts you on an abandoned mining cart (very confining). Throughout the ride you experience: 1) Great set-up and props, 2) Walking, talking, and moving Animatronics, 3) CGI effects, 4) Laser beams bouncing off walls, 5) Flames (and yes, there is a flame ceiling where 2000 degree flames are literally feet, not inches (correcting whatever advertisement stated inches), above you), 6) Water spraying you a-la Spiderman to add emphasis to other effects I can't name. Also, this is all done on a roller coaster track, so the track itself is doing things that are unheared of. It not only goes forward as well as backwards, but also detracts, then spins 180 degrees, and retracts with the rest of the track. And did I mention there was a roller coaster after all this?

And even after all that, the video following the ride still has you wondering if it really was a movie shoot.

So, to all the haters. Don't knock it till you experience it.

 

[WeirdOne]

Re: Re: What ?!

Originally posted by Natelox
The launch for the Hulk was first created at Disneyland Paris on Space Mountain.

I just wanted to correct you Natelox (I'm 76 Trombones from NE), but the Hulk launch is actually an original. The launch on Disneyland Paris is using a chassis system that pulls the train up, the Hulk uses a new wheel propulsion system that rockets you without the need of a chassis to "push it" up. I'll give Universal credit it where it belongs. I must say, the Hulk launch is more thrilling that the Space Mountain one. The Space Mountain one looses by a hair because of the fact that the launch has gotten so ridiculously out of shape in the past years, it just can't perform as well as it used to. - The WeirdOne

[EDIT - Grammar.]

 

[CTXRover]

Re: mummy ride

Originally posted by mcbooty
well i've been fortunate enough to be a part of the preparations to the opening of the Revenge of the Mummy ride, and it is indeed a one of a kind, never before seen or experienced thrill ride. The ride in and of itself is impeccable, the queue line is flawless, and the only people who wouldn't get the theming of the ride are people who are just anticipating a ride and don't pay attention to detail (Just for your information, the concept is that Universal is making the third film of the Mummy series, but a few artifacts on set "may" contain the elements that can resurrect Imhotep, which is obviously what happens). The queue starts off as a production set, and becomes an ancient Egyptian temple (leading you to wonder if there really is a film, or if it was just a big hoax to gather pour defenseless souls into Imhotep's chamber) filled with hieroglyphs that tell the Imhotep's story, as well as numerous sights and gags to keep you guessing. That's just the queue, which already puts to rest the argument of how meticulous the creative team has done with theming the ride.

Now, the ride itself puts you on an abandoned mining cart (very confining). Throughout the ride you experience: 1) Great set-up and props, 2) Walking, talking, and moving Animatronics, 3) CGI effects, 4) Laser beams bouncing off walls, 5) Flames (and yes, there is a flame ceiling where 2000 degree flames are literally feet, not inches (correcting whatever advertisement stated inches), above you), 6) Water spraying you a-la Spiderman to add emphasis to other effects I can't name. Also, this is all done on a roller coaster track, so the track itself is doing things that are unheared of. It not only goes forward as well as backwards, but also detracts, then spins 180 degrees, and retracts with the rest of the track. And did I mention there was a roller coaster after all this?

And even after all that, the video following the ride still has you wondering if it really was a movie shoot.

So, to all the haters. Don't knock it till you experience it.

Sounds very cool! Thanks for the run down. I'm pretty sure I know what the water jets are for and it'll probably "bug" some people if I'm not mistaken, right?

Anyway, you mention walking, talking, and moving animatronics. Talking and moving aren't new, but walking just may be. Do you actually see them "walk", as in being untethered from the ground? Disney has experiemented with walking animatronics before, including back in the 80's with Ben Franklin climbing the stairs in the American Adventure, Hopper jumping up and out onto a stage platform in Its Tough to be a Bug show, the one Carnotauras that "runs" after you in Dinosaur to name a few. However, all of these are tethered to the ground and only "seem" to be walking. I'm just wondering if they actually walk like Disney's first walking audio-animatronic dino, Lucky, or if they only "seem" to walk...by the way...I can understand if you can't tell us, but did they ever get the Mummy warrior to "jump" onto the ride vehicle like they said in the press releases? That is one thing I'm really excited to see.

It sounds really cool...although a lot of it seems a little similar to the Indy ride in DL...from an intricate story told in a "forgotten" language in the queue (actually you can get a translation for the temple's writing in Indy somewhere on the net) and gags in the queue to the ride's intricate sets, use of animatronics, special lighting, use of fire and projected images (rats in Indy's case...which are supposedly being re-updated to be more effective during Indy's current rehab).

I'm not trying to belittle how amazing Mummy will be and since it is 10 years later how much more effective the effects will probably be in Mummy (including that fire ceiling...also something I'm excited to see)...but the concept doesn't seem too incredibly new (but then again...neither does Everest...but that is shaping up to be one heck of a ride too.) Then again...it is the first to combine the "thrill" of a coaster with an incredibly detailed dark ride (which Everest will also be apparently).

 

[mcbooty]

In the Florida ride, there is no Mummy character that jumps onto the car. That is only a feature at the Hollywood park. But, I believe there is one little difference between the coasters that will surprise everybody at the Florida park that I believe is not at the Hollywood park (if somebody knows the details, then correct me if I'm wrong).

As for the animatronics, it is indeed supposed to walk freely (which reminds me of the Ninja Turtles movies). The Imhotep character opens his jaw wide to suck the soul out of an unsuspecting person, and somehow that person is supposed to shrivel up before our eyes. How they plan on doing this is beyond me, but it is supposed to look spectacular (that aspect of the ride hasn't been installed yet).

 

[FigmentDream]

Originally posted by mcbooty

As for the animatronics, it is indeed supposed to walk freely (

I highly doubt this

I know quite a bit about robotics and the levels of technology they are at, in fact I just went to a seminar a few months ago where one of the top researches in the country in the field of making autonomous robots spoke, and according to him they are no were near making anything of a "human size" robotic move freely. Around the range of Lucky is about as advanced as they can get at the moment for an actual living creature in a quadraped form, their are a few more prototypes out there that are pretty cool, but they are having serious trouble getting anywhere with biped technology.

More than likely it will be some major advancement it making it appear to walk freely, or it may indeed "walk freely" but somewhere on it will be sum sort of a tethered support system that will be unseen from the perspective of the coaster.