Tripod in the parks?

Epcot-Rules

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I am brand new to photography but have been lurking around on these topics trying to get any advice and tips I can. I bought the book Understanding Exposure based on multiple recommendation here and have learned more than I ever though I would know. It's starting to come togeather for me.

My equipment is:
Nikon D90 Kit with a Nikkor AF-S 18-105mm 1:3.5-5.6G ED Included.
I added a A-FS Nikkor 35mm 1:1.8 G.
UV and Polarizing filters.

Couple of questions I have are:

Do you carry a tripod into the parks?
Some of the photos I have seen of the fireworks are breath taking. What type of lens do you use for them?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated since I will be at Disney for the 4th and would love to shoot fireworks.
 

CP_alum08

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I assume everyone's philosophies on this will be a little different, but I'll give you mine!

First off, yes. You absolutely need a tripod. There are ways to get shots without one, like having a large aperture and high ISO, but they will not be the 'breath taking' photos you've seen. We almost always have a car with us at the world so I usually leave the tripod in the car and then sneak out sometime before the fireworks and grab it. I have carried it around all day and it's just not worth it to me. Setting up a tripod for Wishes! is pretty tricky. If you want a front and center position on Main St. you better be prepared to get there early and stand your ground. People have no respect for tripods. I've done it several times and my girlfriend and I stand on either side of the tripod and it still gets run into, kicked, tripped over, etc. Heck I've been in a group of photographers with 4 other tripods and we STILL got ran into! And the 4th will be super busy so it will be even worse. There are other places to set up that won't be so crazy but they are off-center and offer a different view. Good and bad I suppose.

The type of lens depends on the type of shot you want. If you want to get the full view of the show you will need a wider lens. If you want a tighter shot with maybe just the castle spire and bursts behind it then you will need a longer zoom lens. On the 4th they generally have perimeter bursts which come from Tomorrowland and Adventureland giving you a 180-degree show. To get all of this you will need a fisheye.

Shooting fireworks is probably the most rewarding type of photography for me. I've shot Disney fireworks shows plenty of times and I still get excited when I get a really good shot. To me there seems to be a lot of luck involved, more luck than skill. People will tell you to watch videos of Wishes to learn when the music queues are which can help a little, but just being there shooting is the best practice you can get. For me, I use a cheap wired remote. I think it was $3 on Ebay. I used to use a wireless one but I had the battery die in the middle of the show once and gave up on that! This way you aren't physically touching the camera, which can cause it to shake even on a tripod. I also shoot in bulb mode now. For a while I was just doing times exposures, but bulb mode is so much better. It gives you more freedom. Typically my shots are ISO 100, f/16-18, and a shutter speed around 20 seconds. Hopefully that helps a little!
 

Epcot-Rules

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Thanks CP, I do have a wireless remote that I been using successfully. I know this is a totally newbie question but with your shutter at 20 seconds, wouldn't this blur the shot?
 

wdwmagic

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Thanks CP, I do have a wireless remote that I been using successfully. I know this is a totally newbie question but with your shutter at 20 seconds, wouldn't this blur the shot?
The idea of the long exposure with fireworks is that the fireworks themselves will appear as streaks (which look great), but the surroundings will not be blurred because the camera is secure on a tripod. So no blur.
 

Allen C

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Some of the photos I have seen of the fireworks are breath taking. What type of lens do you use for them?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated since I will be at Disney for the 4th and would love to shoot fireworks.

My fireworks lens depends on my location.
One of my favorite locations for Wishes is the ferry dock at the Transportation and Ticketing Center. Here I use a 28-300mm zoom usually at around 125mm.


"Wishes" by Allen Castillo, on Flickr

I like to shoot Illuminations from the Teppan Edo balcony. Here I use an 11-16mm wide angle lens @ around 15mm.


Illuminations by Allen Castillo, on Flickr

My usual setup for fireworks:
Full Manual
Bulb Mode
ISO 100
f/11 to f/16
0.9 Neutral Density filter
Tripod
Remote shutter release

I would recommend adding a neutral density filter to your set-up when shooting fireworks. The idea is to avoid the blown-out highlights during long exposures. These are extremely difficult to fix in post-processing. Good luck and have fun on the 4th!
 

CP_alum08

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Thanks CP, I do have a wireless remote that I been using successfully. I know this is a totally newbie question but with your shutter at 20 seconds, wouldn't this blur the shot?
wdwmagic hit the nail on the head but I wanted to make another point. Having a longer exposure allows the fireworks to 'show up' on the shot. It will look more like what your eye sees. Otherwise you just have a static looking shot.
Here is a good example of why you need a long exposure. This was one of my first attempts at Wishes! and the exposure was started just a split second after the 'fans' had started which is why you can only see the top half of them.

36/334 - Another Friday in the books by CJ Balogh, on Flickr

here is a similar shot with a better exposure. See how all of the fan bursts were captured.


138/334 - ND filter woes by CJ Balogh, on Flickr
 

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