Top UK Bishop Slams ‘Disney Consumerism’

mkt

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Top UK Bishop Slams ‘Disney Consumerism’

LONDON (Reuters) -- The hot favorite to become the next spiritual head of the Church of England launched a blistering attack against the consumer society on Tuesday, saying it corrupted the young and made them pre-maturely sexually aware. Entertainment giant Walt Disney Co, child talent shows and computer games came under particularly heavy fire from Rowan Williams, the current Archbishop of Wales and favorite to be named this week as the 104th Archbishop of Canterbury and leader of the world's 70 million Anglicans. In a book seri-alized in the London Times newspaper this week, Williams hit out at children's talent shows and electronic games, which he says typify modern society's unashamed perception of the young as merely another type of consumer. "Anything but innocuous is the conscription of children into fetishistic hysteria of style wars," Wil-liams wrote. "The Disney empire has developed this to an unprecedented degree of professionalism," he said. Liberals in the church have backed Williams, a well-known fan of US cartoon satire 'The Simpsons', while traditionalists have railed against his support of women bishops.
 

mkt

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sigh... and I thought the Southern Baptist Convention had issues w/ Disney.
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

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What do the Welsh know about the rest of the world - a good percentage have lived their entire life without venturing beyond the edge of their village.
There's more to life than "we'll keep a welcome in the hillside" which is why most Welsh people have to cross the borders into England to enjoy life to the fullest.

This contributor speaks with a certain authority on the subject of the Welsh being of Welsh ancestory and having spent 6 years living, working and trying to have a social life in the country.
 

mkt

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We believe in optimism and decency, says Disney

We believe in optimism and decency, says Disney
By Alexandra Frean, Social Affairs Correspondent, Vanda Carson and Claire McDonald
July 24, 2002


LONDON (Times) -- The next Archbishop of Canterbury found himself under fire on the day of his appointment yesterday as shops and merchandise companies defended their film and television tie-ins aimed at children.
Dr Rowan Williams had attacked the Walt Disney Company in his book, Lost Icons, which is being serialised in The Times, for having developed tie-ins to an unprecedented degree. But the company hit back yesterday, saying that it aimed to achieve “community, decency and optimism” in everything it did.

“Since the release of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and the opening of the first Disneyland theme park decades ago, Walt Disney’s vision has been to provide quality entertainment for parents and children to enjoy together.

“While much has changed in the world, the Walt Disney Company has for more than 75 years created captivating and timeless stories that delight and inspire hundreds of millions of children and families worldwide. We are proud that over seven decades Disney has earned the trust and admiration of millions,” the company said.

Disney, which has been involved in tie-ins since Walt Disney accepted $300 for putting Mickey Mouse’s face on school slates in 1930, has no big merchandising campaign organised for the summer, although its last two animated film releases in Britain, Atlantis and Monsters Inc, were accompanied by large-scale toy and food tie-ins.

Its next animated theatrical release, Lilo and Stitch, will, however, be launched with a range of merchandising and released on October 4 to coincide with half-term.

Dr Williams’s book laments the intrusion of consumerism into childhood and criticises a “marketing culture that so openly feeds and colludes with obsession”.

As the summer holiday film season gets under way, toyshop shelves groaning under the weight of movie-related tie-ins, from Warner Bros’ Scooby-Doo soft toys to Spider-Man web blaster gloves, seem to suggest that Dr Williams has a point. High street shops now stock items such as a 69p Scooby-Doo drink, a £2 pencil and eraser set and a £44 biscuit jar.

Nicole Lander, a spokeswoman for Woolworths, the country’s biggest toy retailer, said that 60 per cent of toys for five to 11-year-olds and 20 per cent of its toys for pre-school children were tie-ins with films or television programmes.

She insisted, however, that the company’s marketing of toys was responsible, saying that it had banned an Eminem doll because it did not approve of the singer’s violent image.

Steve Manners, managing director of Copyright Promotions Limited, Europe’s biggest independent licensing organisation, said that the company tried hard to ensure that tie-in products were appropriate.

He added that Spider-Man action figures and Star Wars Lego models had enormous educational value as they encouraged children to play creatively by acting out their own versions of the films.

Mr Manners did concede that the market was so saturated with tie-in products that it had been decided not to launch a range of Stuart Little 2 toys to coincide with the release of the film.

Child health experts agreed that children could suffer from the constant marketing pressure but said it was up to parents to learn how to say no to constant demands.

Jennie Lindon, a child psychologist, said there was a danger that some vulnerable children might begin to define themselves according to what toys they had and might lose some of their sense of identity. However, she said that not giving in to children’s demands was part of being a parent.

Sebastian Kraemer, a leading child and adolescent psychiatrist, welcomed Dr Williams’s interest in child mental health but suggested that he was overstating the gravity of the situation. “We have to be very careful about assuming that children cannot make their own judgments. Happy, secure children can take this kind of marketing with a pinch of salt,” he said.

Parents had mixed views. Guy Pedliham, 42, a firefighter out shopping in Hamleys toy store in Central London with his son Sam, 8, agreed that some merchandising did put pressure on parents.

“The manufacturers introduce subtle changes to the toys especially if it’s a sequel. In Disney’s Toy Story 2 they only slightly altered the figures but the kids still had to have the latest one,” he said.

But Simon Davis, out with his son George, 4, appeared to be quite sanguine about the tie-in business. “Tell me some toys which aren’t commercial,” he said.

Mr Davis normally buys his son Thomas the Tank Engine toys. “Wasn’t that written by a Reverend?” he said.
 

JLW11Hi

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Ok........

Jennie Lindon, a child psychologist, said there was a danger that some vulnerable children might begin to define themselves according to what toys they had and might lose some of their sense of identity.

Uh oh, we'd better stop kids from using their imaginations as soon as we can, or the future is sure to be grim for our children!!

:p
 

epcot71

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maybe the arch bishop should pay less attention to what disney is doing and more on the preists and little boys-i love how all these religous groups have nothing better to do than pick at disney when they have hypocracy right under their noses.:fork: :goodnevil :fork: :goodnevil :fork: :goodnevil
 

mkt

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Originally posted by epcot71
maybe the arch bishop should pay less attention to what disney is doing and more on the preists and little boys-i love how all these religous groups have nothing better to do than pick at disney when they have hypocracy right under their noses.:fork: :goodnevil :fork: :goodnevil :fork: :goodnevil


umm.. Anglican and Catholic are different faiths
 

Herbie53

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If Disney weren't around, the people who are complaining about this would be complaining that there isn't enough child appropriate media. There are too many people in this world looking for something to complain about. They aren't interested in the solution, they just get off on complaining. :brick:
 

CmdrTostada

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Originally posted by mktiggerman



umm.. Anglican and Catholic are different faiths

umm.. There are Pedophiles in all Churches. Not as many as people think, but there are some in every religion. The reason that they show Catholic priest is because the Liberal media hates the Catholic Church.
 

mkt

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Parents don't smell a rat at Disney

Parents don't smell a rat at Disney
By William Langley
Filed: 28/07/2002


(The Sunday Telegraph) -- A few days after September 11, President George W Bush, with a rattled nation to reassure, spotted the obvious straw to clutch at: "Get on down to Disneyland with your families," he said. Given that the park was closed, and there were no flights anyway, Bush took a pasting for this piece of advice, but I could see he was thinking clearly. Walt's magic would make everything all right.

It isn't hard to guess where Dr Rowan Williams, the 52-year-old, Disney-bashing new Archbishop of Canterbury, would have directed the anxious masses. But filling empty churches is his job, and you have to hope his talent for it exceeds his understanding of the meaning of Disney.

In a book regurgitated by The Times last week, Dr Williams argued - reasonably enough - that children are more susceptible to commercial exploitation than they used to be. But he singled out the Disney Corporation for having taken the techniques of parting kiddies from their money (actually, their parents' money) "to an unprecedented pitch of professionalism". He's a decent man, and if that is what he thinks, fine. Here's what I think.

Those of us with small children to raise live under a permanent barrage of mind-rotting, sub-educative dross, from which - for the most part - Disney's products provide small outposts of relief. In an age when even switching on the television is tantamount to cultural terrorism against your own offspring, you can slip a Disney video in the slot and sit back with something approaching a clear conscience.

And guess what? The children love these films! Oh, there are other things to watch in our house, but it's Peter Pan, The Sword in the Stone, Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio and, more recently, the brilliantly innovative Toy Story films, that the children are drawn back to.

Now two particular consequences arise from Disney's rare ability to supply entertainment of this quality. One is that parents tend to form a special bond of trust with the company. The other is that they get royally soaked for doing so. Absolutely nothing Disney produces comes cheap; not the videos, not the theme parks, certainly not the toys and spin-offs.

Dr Williams, perhaps reflecting the parochial rigour of his Welsh roots, seems to think there is something immoral in the company's vigorous marketing of its talents, but - speaking as one of the soaked - I struggle to see why. No one still thinks that Disney consists of a couple of chaps with knobbly pipes and sleeveless cardigans, sketching fairies on drawing boards. It is a global mega-corporation with a furious hunger for profits and expansion. Mickey Mouse may be its public face, but "Give us the money or Bambi gets it" ought to be its motto.

Is there any real alternative to paying up? As a father and an occasional realist, I try to look at it this way; most children are bored some of the time. The rest are bored all the time. They say you are only young once, but they don't say how boring it's going to be.

If an available antidote to boredom comes with such desirable extras as positive messaging and a touch of moral guidance it is practically priceless. And Disney is very good at doing this. Take Cinderella; the first thing she does in the film - immediately upon waking up - is to make her bed. How much is an example like that worth?

Or consider if you will the costly heedlessness of Snow White, even after Doc the dwarf warned her: "The old Queen's a sly one - so beware of strangers."

Every parent drills the "beware of strangers" line into their children and we are still afraid that they don't take enough notice. But they might notice what happens to Snow White when a stranger - the evil Queen in disguise - slips her a poisoned apple. At the core of every Disney animated feature is the story of good's triumph over evil. And if it costs too much - well, I can think of worse rip-offs.

Perhaps Disney doesn't get it entirely right. The Jungle Book's a romp, with wonderful songs, but it's a travesty of Kipling. In the book, Mowgli, raised by the wolves, grows into the noble savage, transcending the animal universe and fulfilling his destiny by killing Shere Khan, the tiger.

"Brothers, that was a dog's death," he coldly tells the wolves. The merely rascally Shere Khan of the film not only survives but gives the impression of being ready to join his old adversary after the show for a rogan josh and a pint of Kingfisher.

Does this matter? It did to me until I found my seven-year-old with his face buried deep in Kipling's original text. "This is way scarier," he panted. And it was, but I doubt if he'd have got so far so soon without Disney.

Uncle Walt used to say: "I don't make movies for children, I make them for the child in everyone." He did, and it's just as well when you have to watch them as often as I do.

In attacking the Disney corporation, Rowan Williams, a social liberal and an outspoken advocate of gay and lesbian rights who has knowingly ordained a practising homosexual, would appear to be keeping some unlikely company. In the United States the corporation's noisiest critics have been religious conservatives, many of whom were outraged by Disney's decision, five years ago, to give equal pension and medical benefits to homosexual employees.

Since then several prominent conservative Christian groups have specialised in finding evidence of unwholesome and sacrilegious content in Disney films; the American Life League which is based in Virginia claimed that Ariel's wedding ceremony in The Little Mermaid showed the officiating bishop sporting a prominent erection, while the American Family Association of Washington, DC spotted in The Lion King a cluster of stars that appeared to blaze the message S-E-X across the darkened African skies.

In confining his criticism to Disney's voracious appetite for profits, Dr Williams is on slightly less shaky ground. The popular American novelist Carl Hiaasen recently wrote an enraged anti-Disney treatise - Team Rodent - which made much the same point. In fact, it made it considerably better than Dr Williams did, though in terms the Archbishop might shy away from. "If anything is more irresistible than Jesus," proclaimed Hiaasen, "it's Mickey."

Hiaasen's point was that Disney had gone beyond its mission to reflect its audience's values and was now imposing its own values on those audiences. Left unmolested, he warned, it would seek to turn the whole world into a vast, sanitised, de-sexed entertainment zone. To such secular critics, everyone who buys a piece of Disney is throwing away a piece of the future.

But isn't the alternative future already here? Isn't it legalised marijuana, and Big Brother on the television, and the collapse of civility? Take that as a package if you want to, but my money's on the mouse.
 

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