Toontown

Californian Elitist

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Could anything at all in Toontown be upgraded? I can't think of anything right now but I just realized Toontown hasn't been touched since it was first built...right?
 

Cosmic Commando

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I think the only change was the closing of the Jolly Trolley; Roger Rabbit opened after the rest of the land, but was still part of the "opening plan" or whatever you would call it.

I don't know if there's room, but Toontown would be the PERFECT place for Philharmagic at DL.
 

Californian Elitist

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I knew nothing has been done to Toontown. You're right but if they were to put Philharmagic in Toontown I wouldn't want it to be computer generated. I'd want it in 2D and I wouldn't want the exact ride. Maybe they could switch it up a little or create a new concept for a toon attraction.
 

Californian Elitist

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I'd be happy with that or anything really. Toontown is still really nice to this day and well kept but something new wouldn't hurt. Seems like they never look at Toontown when it comes to adding new things. I guess it's because it doesn't really need work, but still.
 

Cosmic Commando

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Doesn't the whole land close for the fireworks? It's probably harder to justify a new attraction when you won't get a full operating day out of it, although Disneyland doesn't have fireworks every night like MK does.
 

Californian Elitist

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Doesn't the whole land close for the fireworks? It's probably harder to justify a new attraction when you won't get a full operating day out of it, although Disneyland doesn't have fireworks every night like MK does.

Yes, Toontown closes for the fireworks and doesn't open back up afterwards. You make a decent point, although Toontown doesn't close early every night. Guess we'll have to just wait and see.
 

Cosmic Commando

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Yes, Toontown closes for the fireworks and doesn't open back up afterwards. You make a decent point, although Toontown doesn't close early every night. Guess we'll have to just wait and see.

Again, I'm somewhat ignorant of the space constraints and the like, but I wonder if they could put the show building and a Toontown Opera House facade in Toontown and have a separate entrance from outside the land somehow to use when Toontown was closed? Didn't they used to reroute the line for Snow White every night at MK to avoid the fireworks fallout area around the castle?
 

choco choco

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I don't know if there's room, but Toontown would be the PERFECT place for Philharmagic at DL.

Agreed! :sohappy:

Mickey's Philharmagic is too close to World of Color.

Plus, Disney has made it clear 3D movies are non-starters as attractions anymore, they are too run-of-the-mill. They still haven't figured out a way to get people into the 3D Magic Eye theater in Tomorrowland. MuppetVision and It's a Bug's Life are often closed at DCA because no one goes.
 

Cosmic Commando

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Mickey's Philharmagic is too close to World of Color.

Plus, Disney has made it clear 3D movies are non-starters as attractions anymore, they are too run-of-the-mill. They still haven't figured out a way to get people into the 3D Magic Eye theater in Tomorrowland. MuppetVision and It's a Bug's Life are often closed at DCA because no one goes.

That's silly. Philharmagic has a story. :p
 

Nicole

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I agree with Cosmic Commando. I've done It's a Bug's Life twice and that was probably once more than necessary. We do always try to get to MuppetVision, but even that is getting pretty dated and many kids have no idea who most of the characters are. Mickey's Philharmagic is leaps and bounds ahead of either of those - and full of classic characters and stories that guests are familiar with. I'd love to see it at DLR.
 

Cosmic Commando

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I agree that 3D movies are somewhat of an endangered species with the way 3D is popular again in the "real world", but I think there are several reasons why Philharmagic would work in DL.

1. Only one other 3D movie in Disneyland (EO) and it's probably on its way out. I wouldn't be surprised if the Magic Eye Theater is swallowed up in a Tomorrowland makeover soon.
2. The massive screen. Nobody has a 3D TV that big at home.
3. The pleasant smell and water effect used in a nice way. I'm looking at you, ITTBAB.
4. Like Nicole said, it actually features the classic characters. It's nice to have them in something other than a nighttime show.
 

Admiral01

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I agree with Cosmic Commando. I've done It's a Bug's Life twice and that was probably once more than necessary. We do always try to get to MuppetVision, but even that is getting pretty dated and many kids have no idea who most of the characters are. Mickey's Philharmagic is leaps and bounds ahead of either of those - and full of classic characters and stories that guests are familiar with. I'd love to see it at DLR.

I apologize for the following rant. It really has nothing to do with 3D movies, and it isn't meant to be personal, but its something that I have thought about recently:

Does it really matter if many kids don't know who the Muppets are? I'm the adult. I'm the one spending the money to go to the parks. I'm the one who loves the Muppets and wants to see MuppetVision 3D on my Disney vacation (either coast). Kids can (and should be encouraged to) learn about great things like the Muppets. Parents should want to share those sorts of things with their kids. For example, why is Little Mermaid so popular in the parks right now? Because parents in my generation loved the movie and show it to their kids. The movie came out in 1989. I was 8. Anyone who was a kid old enough to remember it when it was in theaters is an adult now. Left to their own devices, kids may never learn about Ariel. But, parents take the time to share that movie (and probably it's sequels) with their kids, and therfore the kids know who the characters are.

Aside from being fun, the Muppets (and Jim Henson) had a big cultural impact. The great thing about the Muppets is that both adults and kids can enjoy those charcters. Their presence in the parks is far less than it should be.

I'm done. Thank you all.
 

Magenta Panther

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I apologize for the following rant. It really has nothing to do with 3D movies, and it isn't meant to be personal, but its something that I have thought about recently:

Does it really matter if many kids don't know who the Muppets are? I'm the adult. I'm the one spending the money to go to the parks. I'm the one who loves the Muppets and wants to see MuppetVision 3D on my Disney vacation (either coast). Kids can (and should be encouraged to) learn about great things like the Muppets. Parents should want to share those sorts of things with their kids. For example, why is Little Mermaid so popular in the parks right now? Because parents in my generation loved the movie and show it to their kids. The movie came out in 1989. I was 8. Anyone who was a kid old enough to remember it when it was in theaters is an adult now. Left to their own devices, kids may never learn about Ariel. But, parents take the time to share that movie (and probably it's sequels) with their kids, and therfore the kids know who the characters are.

Aside from being fun, the Muppets (and Jim Henson) had a big cultural impact. The great thing about the Muppets is that both adults and kids can enjoy those charcters. Their presence in the parks is far less than it should be.

I'm done. Thank you all.

You're welcome. Now it's my turn. :D Really, equating the Muppets with the Little Mermaid is a bit off, in my opinion. Mermaid, in the classic Disney tradition, was a Disney animated film based on a fairy tale, plussed by great music and enhanced with new, Disney-created characters. The Muppets are a purchase. Period. Like Spiderman, dollars alone will not make them truly Disney, or equal to any actual Disney creation, at least to me. :p Frankly, I wish neither purchase would appear in the parks, but it's not up to me. And I agree with Cosmic Commando: Mickey's Philharmagic is leaps and bounds ahead of the Muppets attraction, because it is full of classic Disney magic, which is the main reason I go to WDW or any other Disney park. (Bug's Life is a cute show, but not nearly as entrancing as Philharmagic, for all its cleverness and, at WDW, its truly neat location beneath the roots of the Tree of Life). For my part, I hope that the Muppets will never be expanded beyond the one theater, and that Marvel gets no presence at all, in the parks. And I do hope that Disneyland gets Philharmagic someday in some way - it deserves to. And now I'M done, and thank YOU! :)
 

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