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The Magical Express will continue through 2011

MickeyTigg

New Member
Original Poster
The Magical Express will continue through 2011, but will relocate to the B side of the terminal.

Beth Kassab
Orlando Sentinel

March 16, 2006

Orlando International Airport and Walt Disney World officials agreed Wednesday to a plan that will keep Disney's popular Magical Express shuttle and baggage service -- which has attracted national attention -- running through 2011.

An analysis by an airport consultant found that the first-of-its-kind service caused the airport to miss out on $204,000 to $1.1 million last year because the free Disney shuttle impacted rental-car and other transportation revenues.

To even out the financial impact and ease concerns about overcrowding at the airport, the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority voted to approve several key terms for the future:

Disney's per-passenger fee will increase from 50 cents to 75 cents beginning next year. From May through December of 2005, Disney paid the airport more than $500,000 and carried more than 1.1 million passengers. The fee could reach $1.50 in 2010.

Magical Express will relocate from the terminal's A side to the B side, where more bus parking spaces are available. Six spaces will be assigned to Magical Express.

If the service exceeds 2.2 million passengers, Disney will begin a second operation on the opposite end of the terminal's B side.

Disney's uniformed greeters -- minus their original oversized Mickey Mouse gloves -- will be allowed back on the terminal's second level to help passengers find their way. Last year, airport staff confined Disney's greeters to the first level.

Disney cannot establish any other similar shuttle and baggage services at other airports within 100 miles of Orlando International.

The agreement was several months in the making after Disney and OIA publicly clashed over the political and financial impacts of the service, which has drawn the interest of airports across the country.

"What we were able to do was say, 'Look, we have reached a bad situation from which everyone needs to recover,' " said Jeffry Fuqua, chairman of the airport authority. "Because the public loves the service, we need to try to make it work. On the other hand, we had issues for the airport that needed to try to be addressed."

The service began in May as a pilot program and was scheduled to end in December. Disney was under pressure to work out a deal so that it could begin to market its vacation packages for next year.

Walt Disney World President Al Weiss said he met with Fuqua several times and the two reached an agreement on the basic outline even though Disney's financial analysis of the service differs from the airport's.

"We think the overall deal is the right place to be; it's a fair deal for both the airport and for Disney," Weiss said.

Disney maintains that Magical Express will produce an estimated $3.65 in additional revenue per passenger for the airport once all the new terms are in place.

The airport analysis shows an estimated net gain of 15 cents to a loss of 30 cents per passenger.

Orange County Mayor Rich Crotty said the program brings several benefits to the community, including keeping cars off Central Florida's overcrowded roads.

No one from rental-car companies or other transportation services affected by Magical Express spoke at the meeting except for Owen Fraser of Beeline Ground Transportation.

By his calculations, Fraser said, Beeline is paying the airport $2.77 for the same service that is costing Disney 50 cents per passenger.

"This is not a happy camper," said Fraser, who says he did not know about the impending start of Magical Express last year when he signed a contract to be a minority provider of airport bus, van and shuttle service.

A group of independent limo and van drivers said after the meeting they were concerned that their businesses were not considered in the deal and forecast that they would continue to suffer a downturn as Magical Express grows.

"This thing was open and shut before it even occurred," said Michael McKenzie, who represents the Greater Orlando Livery Association. "They might as well not have had a meeting. It was just a formality."
 

MickeyTigg

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Original Poster
We're going to continue to support the towncar companies as long as possible.

Really....all ME is is Mears with "Disney" slapped on the side of the bus and they pick up your luggage for you. BTW - Mears does provide the service for Disney.

There are a number of things we've never liked about ME....

1. It's still the cattle car mentality of Mears and the other shuttles. Stuff as many people into a bus/van that you can...and shuttle people to various resorts along the way.
2. You never really know where you luggage is.
3. The wait for the luggage a wait of 3-4 hours for me is insane....I don't want to wait that long or because of the wait be forced to put even more stuff into my carry on luggage.
4. ME dictates when you get picked up and if your flight is too early....you won't get picked up.
5. Driver compensation...tips...or lack of.

Yes...I'm a control freak. I'd rather know where my luggage is and have control of it. And really...how much do you really shlep your luggage around anyway. When we go with a towncar...the driver waits with us while we collect our luggage and once we get all of it, he helps us take the luggage to the waiting area which is not that far from baggage claim. He/she gets the car, the driver loads the luggage and we're off. The whole process until we get to our resort is maybe an hour. Waiting for them to fill up the bus and then an even longer wait for my luggage is more than I want to put up for.

To me ME adds another set of hands handling my luggage without me seeing it. If something happens to my luggage or the contents of my luggage I've got one more group that's going to point the finger at someone else...as if the baggage handlers and TSA weren't enough.

I personally know of some people who had late arriving flights into Orlando (around 10 PM), used ME and didn't get their luggage until 2 AM. On the opposite end....if your departure flight is early in the morning...meaning you have to be at the airport prior to I believe 7 AM, I've read that ME won't pick you up to get you to the airport.

For the people that use ME and it works for them...fine. I have stated on a number of occassions that I don't like ME and don't plan on using, I just wanted to explain my reasons.
 

RickEff

Active Member
When I've used DME, I don't use the luggage tags and take my bags with me on the bus. This way, it's with me when I arrive and I still get the free shuttle.

To each their own.
 

aeillill

Active Member
PetePan said:
What makes ME better than Mears?...It's free!

exactly - I can handle Mears throwing my stuff around, why? Because the airport does the same exact thing so it's nothing my luggage hasn't already suffered through
 

lewisc

Well-Known Member
Nothing like posted half truths and false information to make a point.

1) Buses frequently leave half empty and generally only stop at 3 resorts. Mears would stop at up to 4 places at MCO, DME leaves from one location. Most people report being at their resort just over an hour after landing. Mears didn't let us by-pass baggage claim. The buses are deluxe motor coaches. There is a rest room and the individual seats recline and have bars that serve as a foot rest. I don't think they ever have passengers standing. The people who take a towncar will wind up being stuffed on Disney buses as they travel from their resort to the parks but the DME buses aren't stuffed or packed.

2) Unless you use carryon luggage you really don't even know if your luggage is on your flight. Luggage is scanned and DME knows where it is at all times.

3) What wait? Luggage deliver is pre-tipped. Most of us are at the pool, at a restaurant or at a theme park not sitting in our room waiting for delivery. Airlines sometimes misdirect bags. Even without DME your carryon luggage should include whatever you're going to need for the first few hours after you arrive.

4) You'll get picked up about 3 hours before your flight. DME will get you to the airport, no matter how early your flight is. You can probably have a towncar pick you up 2.5 hour before your flight so you'll have a little more time at WDW if you pay for a towncar.

5) I'll tip if the driver helps me by stowing my carryon luggage under the bus but the driver compensation is between their union, Mears and Disney and isn't my business.

If I have a late flight I'd rather skip baggage claim and just tell bell services to hold my luggage until the next morning.






TiggerRPh said:
We're going to continue to support the towncar companies as long as possible.

Really....all ME is is Mears with "Disney" slapped on the side of the bus and they pick up your luggage for you. BTW - Mears does provide the service for Disney.

There are a number of things we've never liked about ME....

1. It's still the cattle car mentality of Mears and the other shuttles. Stuff as many people into a bus/van that you can...and shuttle people to various resorts along the way.
2. You never really know where you luggage is.
3. The wait for the luggage a wait of 3-4 hours for me is insane....I don't want to wait that long or because of the wait be forced to put even more stuff into my carry on luggage.
4. ME dictates when you get picked up and if your flight is too early....you won't get picked up.
5. Driver compensation...tips...or lack of.

Yes...I'm a control freak. I'd rather know where my luggage is and have control of it. And really...how much do you really shlep your luggage around anyway. When we go with a towncar...the driver waits with us while we collect our luggage and once we get all of it, he helps us take the luggage to the waiting area which is not that far from baggage claim. He/she gets the car, the driver loads the luggage and we're off. The whole process until we get to our resort is maybe an hour. Waiting for them to fill up the bus and then an even longer wait for my luggage is more than I want to put up for.

To me ME adds another set of hands handling my luggage without me seeing it. If something happens to my luggage or the contents of my luggage I've got one more group that's going to point the finger at someone else...as if the baggage handlers and TSA weren't enough.

I personally know of some people who had late arriving flights into Orlando (around 10 PM), used ME and didn't get their luggage until 2 AM. On the opposite end....if your departure flight is early in the morning...meaning you have to be at the airport prior to I believe 7 AM, I've read that ME won't pick you up to get you to the airport.

For the people that use ME and it works for them...fine. I have stated on a number of occassions that I don't like ME and don't plan on using, I just wanted to explain my reasons.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Stuffing people on buses? God forbid we carpool a little more to keep pollution down both in the air and all of the natural areas bordering the Central Florida roads. It is the perspective that more than 4 people in a vehicle is too crowded that continues to pollute the world (not that buses are especially clean, but 40 people on one bus is certainly cleaner than 40 people in 10 different cars). As for bags being late, I'm not sure what people are packing in their bags that they can't wait a few hours for. What would happen if the airlines lost your bags?
 

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