News The Hall of Presidents closing for refurbishment on January 20, 2025

Ayla

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Oh. Where are your stats and data? Let’s see the evidence. Also, not every show or ride has to be an e ticket. Great Moments with Mr Lincoln is a prime example. Just because you find something irrelevant l does not mean that everyone agrees with your take.
You seem to be missing the inverse, oh wise one...just because you find something relevant does not mean everyone agrees with your take.

Your take on the attraction is irrelevant. Disney knows how many people see the show ~ and how many don't. They won't be consulting you before they close or change the attraction.
 
You seem to be missing the inverse, oh wise one...just because you find something relevant does not mean everyone agrees with your take.

Your take on the attraction is irrelevant. Disney knows how many people see the show ~ and how many don't. They won't be consulting you before they close or change the attraction.
YOU made the comment about stats. Ante up or zip it. Where is your proof stat man? Let’s see your evidence. If you have nothing to show, then it’s all your opinion and drivel.
 

The Leader of the Club

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I have read your comments along with several others. It seems to me you have more of a hatred toward the attraction in general. There is nothing wrong with HOP. Perhaps it could use a more entertaining approach for the simple minded “Disney adults” who have erroded their attention spans with tik tok, but what do I know?

I think Magic Kingdom has moved away from Hall of Presidents. Making every land a kind of Fantasyland (Futuristic Fantasy, Tropical Fantasy, Americana Fantasy) makes the real American history show stick out. Add to that the intense political climate and the existence of a better American History show that’s a monorail ride away and I don’t see the reason this attraction needs to continue to exist in its current form.

As for the Walt-hater accusations, I think there are better hills to die on for Walt’s legacy. Attractions like Carousel of Progress or Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln that he actually lived to see completed. Attractions like Tiki Room or the Matterhorn that represent major technological achievements. I don’t think Walt could have foreseen how much the political landscape would change in the almost 60 years since his death. He died before Watergate. Before 9/11. Before a felon became president. We don’t know how Walt would view this experience today and I don’t think it’s fair to assume.
 
I think Magic Kingdom has moved away from Hall of Presidents. Making every land a kind of Fantasyland (Futuristic Fantasy, Tropical Fantasy, Americana Fantasy) makes the real American history show stick out. Add to that the intense political climate and the existence of a better American History show that’s a monorail ride away and I don’t see the reason this attraction needs to continue to exist in its current form.

As for the Walt-hater accusations, I think there are better hills to die on for Walt’s legacy. Attractions like Carousel of Progress or Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln that he actually lived to see completed. Attractions like Tiki Room or the Matterhorn that represent major technological achievements. I don’t think Walt could have foreseen how much the political landscape would change in the almost 60 years since his death. He died before Watergate. Before 9/11. Before a felon became president. We don’t know how Walt would view this experience today and I don’t think it’s fair to assume.
Thus your political views just came shining through. Clearly a leftist, so you would see no value in anything patriotic.
The show is apolitical. Get over yourself. If we can deal with “Pete” up there, and many other not so good apples, then you can deal with your president, Trump. I never one time complained when Biden was up there, and would never have called to have the show removed. Biggest issue is two shower Bob made Fisney political, welcoming anti American sentiments into the company. The new “fandom” of Disney seems anti Walt, and anti America.
 

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Hᴏᴜsᴇ ᴏʄ  Mᴀɢɪᴄ
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Thus your political views just came shining through. Clearly a leftist, so you would see no value in anything patriotic.
The show is apolitical. Get over yourself. If we can deal with “Pete” up there, and many other not so good apples, then you can deal with your president, Trump. I never one time complained when Biden was up there, and would never have called to have the show removed. Biggest issue is two shower Bob made Fisney political, welcoming anti American sentiments into the company. The new “fandom” of Disney seems anti Walt, and anti America.
Can I be a fan of Walt. Vote for Trump. And still dislike this attraction?
 

The Leader of the Club

Well-Known Member
Thus your political views just came shining through. Clearly a leftist, so you would see no value in anything patriotic.
Did you miss the parts where I praised American Adventure and Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln?

Hall of Presidents is a fantastic museum exhibit. Unfortunately, it’s not in a museum. It’s in the Magic Kingdom. The bar is significantly raised and I don’t think it’s cleared that bar in a long time. Even among the animatronic shows (Bears, Tiki, COP).
 
Did you miss the parts where I praised American Adventure and Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln?

Hall of Presidents is a fantastic museum exhibit. Unfortunately, it’s not in a museum. It’s in the Magic Kingdom. The bar is significantly raised and I don’t think it’s cleared that bar in a long time. Even among the animatronic shows (Bears, Tiki, COP).
COP is a ghost town half the time as well, but I love it. Also, MK Tiki Room is a sad shell at this point, at least the last time I went. Fountain effect still off, and shortened show. Country Bears is unfair as it just had an overhaul.

I did not miss what you said, but your slant became obvious the moment you said convicted felon. It’s crap like that…that is why HOP is where it is situationally. Respect it for what it is and if you don’t like it, well, it’s not the only attraction.
 

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The Hall of Presidents is a treasure that must be preserved. This call to destroy this celebration of American history is pathetic and sad.
Preserve it in a museum. Donate it to the Smithsonian. Or retool it. It's not a good fit in its current theme park setting. The American Adventure though, is a fine show!
 

sedati

Well-Known Member
I think Magic Kingdom has moved away from Hall of Presidents. Making every land a kind of Fantasyland (Futuristic Fantasy, Tropical Fantasy, Americana Fantasy) makes the real American history show stick out. Add to that the intense political climate and the existence of a better American History show that’s a monorail ride away and I don’t see the reason this attraction needs to continue to exist in its current form.

As for the Walt-hater accusations, I think there are better hills to die on for Walt’s legacy. Attractions like Carousel of Progress or Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln that he actually lived to see completed. Attractions like Tiki Room or the Matterhorn that represent major technological achievements. I don’t think Walt could have foreseen how much the political landscape would change in the almost 60 years since his death. He died before Watergate. Before 9/11. Before a felon became president. We don’t know how Walt would view this experience today and I don’t think it’s fair to assume.
Keeping Hall of Presidents with its tale of idealized American myth-making is the most fantastical thing in the park.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
The Hall Of Presidents is a classic and really should be preserved.... I would love it to stay in the Magic Kingdom forever...but losing the ROA and TSI shows that they are moving away from the park the MK was and into a sloppy nonsensical mess of intermingled IP... The Disney theme park plan and style seems to be going away with the company's newer management style....sadly.
 

sedati

Well-Known Member
The Hall Of Presidents is a classic and really should be preserved.... I would love it to stay in the Magic Kingdom forever...but losing the ROA and TSI shows that they are moving away from the park the MK was and into a sloppy nonsensical mess of intermingled IP... The Disney theme park plan and style seems to be going away with the company's newer management style....sadly.
It was a concept long mulled and only justified to cash in on the short-term hoopla around the bicentennial.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
The Hall Of Presidents is a classic and really should be preserved.... I would love it to stay in the Magic Kingdom forever...but losing the ROA and TSI shows that they are moving away from the park the MK was and into a sloppy nonsensical mess of intermingled IP... The Disney theme park plan and style seems to be going away with the company's newer management style....sadly.
Todays Walt Disney company does not care about Walt's vision, not for a long time.

All the changes that will be happening is because of MONEY.

TWDC wants all attractions to SELL THE MAXIMUM LLs AS POSSIBLE.

It is no longer about theme, emersion, beauty, atmosphere - ITS ONLY ABOUT MONEY!
 

Wendy Pleakley

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Thus your political views just came shining through. Clearly a leftist, so you would see no value in anything patriotic.
The show is apolitical. Get over yourself. If we can deal with “Pete” up there, and many other not so good apples, then you can deal with your president, Trump. I never one time complained when Biden was up there, and would never have called to have the show removed. Biggest issue is two shower Bob made Fisney political, welcoming anti American sentiments into the company. The new “fandom” of Disney seems anti Walt, and anti America.

Saying people on the other side aren't patriotic is the definition of being anti America.

Pot, meet kettle.
 

ERED

Member
I did not miss what you said, but your slant became obvious the moment you said convicted felon. It’s crap like that…that is why HOP is where it is situationally. Respect it for what it is and if you don’t like it, well, it’s not the only attraction.

Didn't you say you wanted people to provide facts in their arguments??🤷‍♂️
 

soarinwithmolly

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I just can't see this going away, as much as I think the Muppets would be a no-brainer fix if they wanted to modernise it, removing HoP is going to be controversial at any time. When/if it's announced to be removed, there will absolutely be a "hmmm I wonder if it has anything to do with the current POTUS" discourse. Hell, we were verging on that topic with a slightly differently-worded sign.
 

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