Halfling418
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I agree.
Frank Oz kicks serious butt.
Frank Oz kicks serious butt.
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Star wars Ep.3: The Revenge of the Sith
- Thread starter darthdarrel
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I don't know I kind of like The CGI better! In Empire Yoda's movement was so limited and you could tell he was a puppet, The CGI specially in revenge of the sith made Yoda look so real. That is not to say that frank oz doesn't kick but, I am just not against the CGI :wave:
KevinPage
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crazycalf said:
Well Darth does bring balance to the force with the confrontation with his son and so he is redemned. Granted, you can argue all the carnage that Vader causes before that happens is bad, but this needed to happen for everything to come full circle.
If Obi Wan had killed Vader at that moment, would the Empire still have taken over and ruled the Galaxy? Would Luke had ever progressed into what he became without having to overcome his greatest fear?
The Emperor seemed well on his way to ruling the Galaxy, even without Vader. Most of the Jedi were killed by their assigned Clone Troopers. We don't know how many survived, but we can assume that Vader hunted down and killed those that did - according to what Ben tells Luke - except for Obi-Wan and Yoda. Perhaps without Vader more Jedi would have survived, thrived and overthrown the Emperor without Luke. It's hard to say.KevinPage said:
We're not sure when Obi-Wan learns that Vader survived - some time in the intervening 20 years I suspect - either on the evening news or perhaps through the Force!
Computer Magic
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I guess it's a double edged sword. I agree the fight scene with Yoda wouldn't happen w/o CGI. But the acting is harder with CGI. It takes a unique or special actor to pull off acting in front of nothing. I think the acting lacked because of CGI.darthdarrel said:
I guess it comes down to does someone prefer a better acting or better puppet movement.
Computer Magic
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I guess I assumed all the Jedi's except Ben and Yoda were killed in EP III. Vadar going to the jedi training center to kill what was lefttomm4004 said:
You mean Ben didn't find out thourgh the Internet rumor mill? :lol:tomm4004 said:
Number_6
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Computer Magic said:
As far as CGI characters go, it was actually handled in a manner similar to Gollum in LotR. The actor providing the voice would be in the area the character was supposed to be(Rena Owen who provided the voice for Taun We in AotC stood there with a long Taun We neck and face on top of her head to show the actors where to look for the face, for example). I'm not sure if they had Frank Oz place his head through a hole or something to show where Yoda was if he was seated, but I'm sure they did something to make it easier on the actors.
Judging from Ep 2 DVD extras, I don't think Frank Oz was ever on set. I don't remember them showing how they did the references for Yoda, but certainly Ahmed Best was on set as was Rena Owen. They still added their usable lines afterward because they stand aside for the actual take.Number_6 said:
The thread lives!
Some interesting tidbits about Lucas's intentions in the official "Making Of" book:
In the rough draft, Dooku admits to Anakin that he arranged to have his mother killed by the Tusken Raiders.
Also, Lucas did intend for Leia's memories of her mother to come from those brief seconds she's being held over her Padme until Padme dies.
In an early draft, 10-year-old Han Solo helps Yoda discover the location of Grievous!
Also, in an early draft, Sidious says that he was the one that arranged for Anakin's conception.
Also, Spielberg did the animatics for the climatic battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin.
That's just a sampling.
Some interesting tidbits about Lucas's intentions in the official "Making Of" book:
In the rough draft, Dooku admits to Anakin that he arranged to have his mother killed by the Tusken Raiders.
Also, Lucas did intend for Leia's memories of her mother to come from those brief seconds she's being held over her Padme until Padme dies.
In an early draft, 10-year-old Han Solo helps Yoda discover the location of Grievous!
Also, in an early draft, Sidious says that he was the one that arranged for Anakin's conception.
Also, Spielberg did the animatics for the climatic battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin.
That's just a sampling.
no2apprentice
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Just saw the film yesterday (the 11th). Not my favorite, but in the top two, no...three, well there was that one scene....okay top three.
My son kept asking me, "Are you looking forward to seeing it, dad?" Only about a gazillion times. After I saw it (he had already seen it with friends), I got the other question, "Well, what'd you think, dad? Did you like it? Did you think it was good? Do you think it was the best one?" Kids. Gotta love 'em.
It would have been the best one for me, but I ALREADY KNEW WHAT BASICALLY WAS GOING TO HAPPEN! Anakin turns to the dark side, Palpatine becomes the emporer, the jedi's eat it, Padme has twins, Padme dies, Anakin becomes Vadar, Obi-Wan and Yoda go to ground. I knew all of that was going to happen. Yes, yes, there were a lot of details and information that get filled in to complete the story. I've just always felt that Lucas went the wrong way. He should have gone forward with the story, not backwards. But that's just me.
Besides, it's all Mace's fault. He had the opportunity, but hesitated. When confronted with true evil, and have a chance to strike it down, you just do it. And, as we all know...he who hesitates, is lost.
One more point: the jedi council have just as much to do with Anakin turning to the dark side than Palpatine. Several of the jedi can sense Anakin's frustrations, impatience, and his power, so what do they do? They want him to spend time with someone who Yoda can sense is surrounded by darkness. A very bad call by the council.
My son kept asking me, "Are you looking forward to seeing it, dad?" Only about a gazillion times. After I saw it (he had already seen it with friends), I got the other question, "Well, what'd you think, dad? Did you like it? Did you think it was good? Do you think it was the best one?" Kids. Gotta love 'em.
It would have been the best one for me, but I ALREADY KNEW WHAT BASICALLY WAS GOING TO HAPPEN! Anakin turns to the dark side, Palpatine becomes the emporer, the jedi's eat it, Padme has twins, Padme dies, Anakin becomes Vadar, Obi-Wan and Yoda go to ground. I knew all of that was going to happen. Yes, yes, there were a lot of details and information that get filled in to complete the story. I've just always felt that Lucas went the wrong way. He should have gone forward with the story, not backwards. But that's just me.
Besides, it's all Mace's fault. He had the opportunity, but hesitated. When confronted with true evil, and have a chance to strike it down, you just do it. And, as we all know...he who hesitates, is lost.
One more point: the jedi council have just as much to do with Anakin turning to the dark side than Palpatine. Several of the jedi can sense Anakin's frustrations, impatience, and his power, so what do they do? They want him to spend time with someone who Yoda can sense is surrounded by darkness. A very bad call by the council.
cherrynegra
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I finally saw the film today. I knew it would be dark, but I didn't figure it would be soooooooooo dark. I mean, I knew what was coming, but seeing it happen was utterly depressing!! And the scene with Anakin in the room with the young Jedis hiding was just disturbing. I don't know. Maybe it was me. I did like the film, but it certainly made me want to watch the next trilogy to wipe out some of the memories from this film.
