2 Questions, how does the camera recognize the cards? Like what is stopping me from printing a very good copy of (for example) the Elsa card and using it? Cause I was considering it
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Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom
- Thread starter MagicHappens1971
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What do you mean by that?
I just wanted to know what you meant by personal integrity.
Nemo14
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if you have to ask...
Well what did you mean?
Zweiland
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What's the point of the game if you cheat?
I'd think that actually playing it is more challenging and rewarding than "press print, hold card up to scanner, voila, win game!"
But what do I know, I've never played.
tribbleorlfl
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The camera reads the symbols in the background (in the Case of Elsa, the snowflakes).
Regarding printing off images, the cameras generally can read them. If you have a smartphone, images generally can be read on them, as well.
I personally don't agree with Nemo or Zweiland on printing out cards as equating to cheating. Why? First, many of the hardcore SotMK players don't even bring their cards anymore, they just use their smartphones. This is because hauling around a binder around the parks isn't the easiest thing to do, and because these cards are collectible and have value (esp the Lightening Bolts and Party cards); the last thing you want is for the cards to be damaged or stolen.
Second, this game is free to play, with no prize associated (aside from an extra pack of free cards at completion). Using a printout of one of these cards doesn't give you an extra advantage in the game nor does it take anything away from another player. All it does is allow you to see a new spell animation.
That being said, if you're thinking about printing out Elsa bc you don't have (but want) one, consider they just started passing out the leftover stock two weeks ago to normal day guests and just ran out this past Thursday. The effect has been to dramatically increase the supply bouncing around in trading circles, and asking prices have plummeted. You could probably buy a booster pack in the Emporium on your way to Tortuga and swap out the Lightening Bolt for an Elsa quite quickly with a trader there.
Bairstow
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That really gets to the crux of it.
If it were a multiplayer competitive game it would be one thing, but I see nothing wrong with spoofing the cards to see their animations.
MickeyMomV
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If your spending $1000's on a WDW vacation why not get your starter packs and spend $5-$10 on an additional pack or two?? Also, if you are fold up the paper to help it fit in a pocket, purse, or bag the folds or crinkles might make the paper unreadable.
The camera reads the symbols in the background (in the Case of Elsa, the snowflakes).
Regarding printing off images, the cameras generally can read them. If you have a smartphone, images generally can be read on them, as well.
I personally don't agree with Nemo or Zweiland on printing out cards as equating to cheating. Why? First, many of the hardcore SotMK players don't even bring their cards anymore, they just use their smartphones. This is because hauling around a binder around the parks isn't the easiest thing to do, and because these cards are collectible and have value (esp the Lightening Bolts and Party cards); the last thing you want is for the cards to be damaged or stolen.
Second, this game is free to play, with no prize associated (aside from an extra pack of free cards at completion). Using a printout of one of these cards doesn't give you an extra advantage in the game nor does it take anything away from another player. All it does is allow you to see a new spell animation.
That being said, if you're thinking about printing out Elsa bc you don't have (but want) one, consider they just started passing out the leftover stock two weeks ago to normal day guests and just ran out this past Thursday. The effect has been to dramatically increase the supply bouncing around in trading circles, and asking prices have plummeted. You could probably buy a booster pack in the Emporium on your way to Tortuga and swap out the Lightening Bolt for an Elsa quite quickly with a trader there.
So if I get that right, I could just save it to my phone and hold it up? the card doesnt have to be a certain size?
Bairstow
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No.
Because as a guest might be holding her/his card closer or further away to the camera, the software has to be able to recognize the patterns at different sizes.
It likely has no capacity to perceive depth, and therefore would not need to take into account the size of the object being scanned.
Same goes for the QR reader on your phone.
Nick Wilde
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Yes. I had a good friend who copied the "rarest" cards and gave them to me, and they work perfectly fine.
tribbleorlfl
Well-Known Member
Correct.
HRHPrincessAriel
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Am I missing something? Is it hard to obtain these cards?
dreamfinder
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I've seen plenty of players using scans of the cards, frequently for the crest on the back. They just stick a big copy of that on the outside of their binder.
Depends on the card. The one the OP mentioned, the Elsa card, was given away to MVMCP attendees. (And apparently some to normal park guests) That was the only way to get it, so essentially it came with a $65ish price tag. Of the 70 card base set, you can get 60 for free in random 5 packs when you play each day, but the remaining 10 are only available in packs you buy for $15 (I think, it's been a while) where you get 1 rare card, and 6 more of the not so rare cards. So you can play the game for free with the cards you can get for free, but if you want a complete set, there will be money involved, and even more if you want the set to contain all the party cards. You can easily get a large portion of the base set if you have your whole group play daily, and do a few trades to top it off. 5 cards per person, party of 4, hit the Magic Kingdom 3 days can get enough cards, and potentially trade for the whole base 1-60 set. Or you can buy them on ebay for $30-40, but adding in the rare cards kicks it up to $150+ usually.
Depends on the card. The one the OP mentioned, the Elsa card, was given away to MVMCP attendees. (And apparently some to normal park guests) That was the only way to get it, so essentially it came with a $65ish price tag. Of the 70 card base set, you can get 60 for free in random 5 packs when you play each day, but the remaining 10 are only available in packs you buy for $15 (I think, it's been a while) where you get 1 rare card, and 6 more of the not so rare cards. So you can play the game for free with the cards you can get for free, but if you want a complete set, there will be money involved, and even more if you want the set to contain all the party cards. You can easily get a large portion of the base set if you have your whole group play daily, and do a few trades to top it off. 5 cards per person, party of 4, hit the Magic Kingdom 3 days can get enough cards, and potentially trade for the whole base 1-60 set. Or you can buy them on ebay for $30-40, but adding in the rare cards kicks it up to $150+ usually.