Roy Disney is a push-over!

PeterAlt

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Before I start getting flamed here, let me explain what I mean! With all due respect to Roy Disney, his energies in defending his uncle's legacy and his wonderful contributions to the Walt Disney Co., if he ever got his way and allowed people to run the company "his way", simply put, the company will begin going downhill. Why? Well, let's take his complaint about the way Eisner is handling negotiations with its partners, how Eisner's tactics are "straining" those relationships and may even put them in jeopardy (such as what happened with Pixar)...

If Roy got his way, sure Pixar would not have seperated from the Walt Disney Co. Why? Because Roy's people would have agreed to Pixar's terms without much negotiating. Would Pixar have gotten slightly favorable terms? No. Pixar would have gotten everything they wanted. It would have been a bum deal for the Walt Disney Co.! Why would Roy give in to unfavorable terms so easily? Or maybe you don't believe he would? Roy is so gung-ho about keeping its "creative" people sooo much that he would give away the farm in the process!

Don't believe me? Well, we'll get back to this in a moment. Let's move on to cable distribution, another area Roy has been complaining that Eisner is straining relationships with the cable companies that distribute Disney's cable channels. Comcast's relationship with Disney is so strained that they even tried to buy the company. Main reason? Because Comcast doesn't want to pay the fees Disney wants to charge. The same is true with other cable companies. In this week's news, Cable announced it finally struck a deal with Disney to renew its contract to carry Disney's cable networks after over a year and a half of intense negotiations, agreeing on the fee that Disney demanded.

If Roy's people were in charge, Cable wouldn't have negotiated for so long, neather would any cable company, including Comcast. Why? Because Roy Disney's people would not have had the "nerve" to ask for the fees which they asked for, and the contracts would have been signed quickly. But yet Disney is upgrading equipment at the cable networks, paying for increased production fees, and upgrading to HDTV. Do the cable companies honestly think they could get away without paying increased fees to help cover these costs?

You could say that the cable companies simple do not have to carry Disney's cable channels. True. But there's a problem. Disney owns some of the most popular cable networks, including ESPN, Lifetime, E!, History Channel, Disney Channel, Toon Disney, Disney Family Channel, and much more. Disney has great contracts with the two big satellite providers. If your cable company fails to agree to carry these channels, you could simply subscribe to satellite. And the cable operators know this. That's why in the end, Disney will always win these negotiations. So, Eisner's strong-arm tactics may strain relationships, but Disney will always end up with a better deal, as they should!

What kind of deal would Roy Disney's people make? Well, for one he is complaining about Eisner's deal with the Chinese Government for Hong Kong Disneyland. Under this deal, Disney is getting over 300 acres of free land. Disney is getting 43% ownership of the company, royalty fees, and management fees, Disney will manage the company, even though the Chinese Government owns most of it. But, the Chinese Government is footing most of the construction bill! Not a bad deal! What kind of deal would Roy's people have made?

Let's look back in history. It's the early 80's. Eisner is not yet working at Disney. Roy Disney is on Disney's Board of Directors and has much influence. The company is negotiating with the Japanese to build a Disneyland in Tokyo. Quickly, a deal was placed together. It's terms: Disney would have NO ownership of the new park and have NO management of it, but will get a very very small licensing and franchise fee. With Tokyo Disneyland having one of the highest attendence figures, it's a shame the Disney Company has absolutely no ownership!

So, Pixar couldn't agree to Disney's terms. Loss? Yeah. But Pixar is still obligated to make three more films for Disney. And by the time Pixar's contract runs out, Disney's own 3D animation unit should be producing full-length films. Will they be any good? Time will tell, but these are the same people who made Dinosaur and Mickey's Philharmagic, which aren't bad. Maybe they will get better as they make more films. Also, don't forget Pixar has yet to find a new distributor, so at this point anything could happen.
 

Disneyland1970

New Member
I see where you are comming from, but you make the assumption that Roy is going to take over in the same capacity as Eisner.

IMHO I feel that Roy would have people in place that can handle these issues that you have brought up. I also feel that maybe they would be able to treat clients and business partners with a little more respect and class.

I also get the feeling that Roy would scale back some of the business that are outside the scope of Disney proper.(ie: ESPN, ABC Etc).

Again this is speculation on my part, but I feel you see Roy as a push over. Maybe his is, I have not had the honor of meeting him.
Your post makes it sound like you have talked over Roy's takeover plans with him and Stan.

From what I have read on other sites, it seems that Roy is just calling for a new management to return Disney back to its roots of family entertainment and value.

You mention Tokyo Disney, who is to say that in the 80's Eisner could have made a better deal??? All assumptions.

I feel that Eisner has lost touch with the meaning of DISNEY.

All in all you make a lot of assumptions about Roy. And we will never know if you are correct or wrong about the past.

Unfortunately or fortunately, we can see the history on Mike and most of the people on here do not agree with his style and the COST of his management style. Hopefully the next team in charge will have a little more respect for the people who work for them, the business partners who they deal with, the people who visit the parks, and the heritage that is connected with the Disney name!

Hopefully they will not value the DOLLAR over everything else like Eisner.
 

JEDI1138

New Member
It's been said that the current Management Laughed at the Japanese for Spending soo much money on the Disney Seas Park, because they could build a park at Half the cost. Let me see, Attendance levels at Tokyo Disney Sea vs. Disney California Adventure. Hmmm.
 

Pat X

New Member
Uhhh....DCA's attendance rose 13% this year more than any other theme park.

Yes, Disney Sea has gotten a lot of people to go, but at the price of people not going to Tokyo Disneyland. Before Disney Sea opened, Tokyo DL had about 16-17 mill people and now its down to below WDW Magic Kingdom's which is at 14 mill....so the park has only cannabalized TDL's attendance. (I could be off on some of those numbers. :) )
 

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