Rollercoaster Idea

WDWfan2209

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I had this idea about a swinging ship or something like that, you know the ones that swing back and forth, well anyways i had a thought about on the final fall why not the ship stop and a train (rollercoaster) fly out the front onto rollercoaster track.

Anyone think it a cool, original idea??? Please give feedback!!!
 

WDWfan2209

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Details: You would board a old looking swing ship thing, like at carnivals and some theme parks, anyways you would swing back and forth gaining momentum, then once you get enough momentum and the passengers are able to look directly at the ground the ship swing back down. (Hold on this is where it gets confusing!) The ship itself stops instantly, but their is/was a rollercoaster train being "held" inside the ship. (You actually board the coaster train itself) You, the rider, are catapulted by the speed of swinging down out the front of the ship, which opens up, and you are then on normal coaster track.

Story: The story is that you are riding on a regular old swinging ship at a boardwalk or something like that. But then the ship stops and the riders fly out of it for a WILD ride!

Location: DCA, my Americana idea theme park, etc.

Comments: I'm sorry its confusing but its never been done before and its hard to explain. I'll try and post some drawings.
 

The_CEO

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Until I see some blueprints on how this would be developed. I don't think its possible. I don't see the point in it also. I like the idea of the concept tho. Like I said Innovative.
 
From a mechanical standpoint this would be near to imposible to pull off, you do realize that the swining ship is suported by huge steel beam mounts, I am not sure if you could really release the shop onto anysort of a track, I mean these ships are huge and moving the whole support system would not be an option.

I am not saying this effect is imposible, but you would need some sort of a new system to acheive it
 

WDWfan2209

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When you click on the link you'll see that the boat itself runs on its own set of rails which can then switch so the coaster itself can run on the tracks. The way it works is that while the ship is in the final swing brakes are fliped on and stop the ship and the motor is shut off which basically mean gravity goes all the work on the final drop , at the same time the tracks are switched so that the coaster can run onto the tracks once it gos into the final fall.

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The_CEO

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It would still have to connect to the coaster track. And would have to just stop. By the time the sensors indicate its all clear to let it go. It loses it's momentum. Wont even Technially work.
 
I think you are far to focused on the "Swinging Ship" aspect of all of this.

The far easier way to do this, although it might be a flow nightmare would to simply build a suspended rollercoater, but have the cars seated so that it looks like a swinging coaster, the coaster could then initially travel on on a U-shaped track using linear induction motor to move it back and forth in gradually larger and larger motions mimic the movements of a swinging ship, then at one point when it would reach the peak of one side it would be boosted down toward the other side, but go past the u-shaped segment of track and continue down a series of dips and turns, then it would reach and actually peak then follow go back through the station platform area, then go past the faux peak on the other side and do a nother series of dips and turns before hitting the second actual peak and then coming back into the station and the ride would be over.

THis would more than likely have to be indoors but it could be done to look like the outside and the exterior could have like a building that appears to be blocking a real swing ship ride, like you go through the ride to get to the building, but the ship you see from the outside would be a real ship, but just for show, as when you go into the building in the que you drop below the ride and into a show building behind where the real ride would take place, the intro of the show building could be a replica of the outside area and the track could be somewhat concealed in the ceiling with a faux sky set up.

This would be the only way to do what you are proposing, with out major mechanical risks or headaches.

Below is a quick sketch showing some of the important poitns
 

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WDWfan2209

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Why does it have to be easier? I mean why take the path that normal average joes would take? I like to take the hard way. I don't mind having a challenge because in the end I know it won't be like anything else out there. Oh by the way, I came up with another solution that is nothing like yours. I'll post a drawing of it later.
 
Originally posted by WDWfan2209
Why does it have to be easier? I mean why take the path that normal average joes would take? I like to take the hard way. I don't mind having a challenge because in the end I know it won't be like anything else out there. Oh by the way, I came up with another solution that is nothing like yours. I'll post a drawing of it later.

Please do share, but take it from someone with some mechanical expertise and alot of real world experience, don't over-complicate things for sake of "going the harder route". Why spend more materials, more safety precaution, more hassles when it breaks down, when you get the same and smoother effect a "simpler method".

Oh and it is not a good idea to try to act like you are above and lecture people who are trying to help you.

Actually FYI, to me taking the normal easy route would be using a dual track and switching a swinging ship car onto a coaster track, the path less traveled by would be integrating the two concepts into one seamless Liner Propulsion suspended coaster that can mimic the same action for the desired effect. This takes advanced vision not just the normal average joe route of physically combining the two rides together.
 

WDWfan2209

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I'm sorry Figment. I didn't want what I said to sound like a lecture. My solution was to have 2 sets of guide rails. The ship guide rails would be farther apart, and the coaster rails in between the ship guide rails.They would go from the top of the back of the ship rails, (the side guests aren't facing), and then just do its regular ride after its released. Tell me if you don't understand and i'll post a drawing.
 
I think I get the general idea, but here are two things to ponder:

1) The ship is a rather large mass, and with that mass comes a large momentum, and any track is going to need to hold that momentum is not going to be some little thin track, you are going to need an awfully thick track to hold this and if you need it to hold it in place at the start you will need it to got all the way around the ride

2) Normally a swinging ship is able to swing almost or at a 90 degree angle, but if there is a track coming over the swinging area you are going to have to greatly cut back on how far this ship can swing, unless you raised the track a huge amount above where the ship swings and then you run into problems with how much of centripetal force is pulled on turns and such later causing an even huger track to be built
 

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