Riders stuck on top of roller coaster/ Universal Orlando

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
So the ride system was unable to verify the continued safe operation of the ride and properly stopped the ride vehicles at the designated stop points, at which time guests exited the vehicles via the designated means of egress so that the ride could be further examined without additional delay or risk of severe injury to the riders. “Breaking news at 11:00! Ride system operates safely as designed!”
 

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
So the ride system was unable to verify the continued safe operation of the ride and properly stopped the ride vehicles at the designated stop points, at which time guests exited the vehicles via the designated means of egress so that the ride could be further examined without additional delay or risk of severe injury to the riders. “Breaking news at 11:00! Ride system operates safely as designed!”

What, no crash?? What's wrong with this attraction!
 

Rob562

Well-Known Member
It's actually not uncommon for Rip Ride RockIt to get stuck, but I don't think I've seen it get stuck there before.

OK, so watching some news helicopter footage it appeared that a train was "valleyed" between the first drop and the loop. Riders were being evaced from the train by boom lifts. Not the first time a train has valleyed on RRR, usually happens early in the morning when track, wheels, axle grease, etc aren't warmed up yet, sometimes you throw in a headwind at just the right angle and you get a train that doesn't make it up the next hill. But something seemed a bit off...

As @RustySpork said, the location wasn't normal. Trains that valley on RRR tend to be stuck *after* the loop. They make it through the loop and then don't *quite* make it to the block brake and they roll back. But by that point they don't have the momentum to get all the way back through the loop to the other side. So they settle between loop and block brake.

So then I saw a wide shot from the helicopter. And there's a train *in* the block brake after the loop (yellow circle).

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Under normal operation the valleyed train (red circle) shouldn't have made it off the lifthill with a train stopped in front of it in the next block brake. There should always be a free brake zone between every moving train. So that makes me wonder...did the "valleyed" train actually stop on the lift hill as part of the cascade ride stop, and then they lowered it down the first drop in a controlled manner of some kind so they could evac the riders? Is this their new procedure rather than take the riders off up at the top of the lift?

Side note: Apparently this issue created some logistical headaches at HHN tonight. They had to reroute the queue for Ghostbusters so it didn't cross under the RRRI tracks, and actually send the queue *through* the Grinch show soundstage behind the Grinch set.

-Rob
 
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Tom Morrow

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^ I believe you are correct, there are brakes at the bottom of the drop - seen here (pause at 49 seconds) that are normally not engaged and serve no other purpose.
 

Rob562

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^ I believe you are correct, there are brakes at the bottom of the drop - seen here (pause at 49 seconds) that are normally not engaged and serve no other purpose.

That brake may be there to help hold the train in place during evac once it's been lowered slowly, but there's no way it would stop a free-falling train at full speed. It likely also doubles as a trim brake.

-Rob
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
That brake may be there to help hold the train in place during evac once it's been lowered slowly, but there's no way it would stop a free-falling train at full speed. It likely also doubles as a trim brake.

-Rob
I think the idea is that it functions as a trim brake only for situations like this - to intentionally valley the train.
 

JT3000

Well-Known Member
That brake may be there to help hold the train in place during evac once it's been lowered slowly, but there's no way it would stop a free-falling train at full speed. It likely also doubles as a trim brake.

-Rob

There's no way of getting the vehicles down the drop slowly. Even if you come to a complete stop at the top of the hill, you're still going down the drop at full speed. The purpose of putting brakes at the bottom would be to keep it from getting past the loop even after dropping at full speed.

Assuming this was done on purpose, I also have to imagine that the whole idea is to get people off at a lower elevation, meaning they're still on the ride when it descends. Can you imagine how terrifying it would be to go down the drop slowly?
 
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Rob562

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My random idea was that maybe after the last evac on the lifthill they'd installed a winch or something to lower the car down the hill.

I've never heard of a trim brake being installed to purposely valley a train, but I suppose it's possible. But that's a LOT of force that has to be exerted by one small pair of brake pads. I would've thought they'd put more than one.

-Rob
 

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