News Reflections – A Disney Lakeside Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

nickys · 2024-09-27T10:22:46-0400

Nottamus said:
Not real until I see balloons ….

And ladder.

nickys · 2024-09-27T10:23:22-0400

BrianLo said:
The Cabins?

Which is ironic, if they had just upped that chart the maintenance fee issue would lessen.

Good catch. I’m ignoring them lol!

nickys · 2024-09-27T10:25:59-0400

Indy_UK said:
If that's the case then, Mainstreet theatre and Play Pavilion is there too

Disney (almost) never officially cancel anything not yet completed.

I only put almost in that sentence in case someone (ahem @BrianLo) can think of an example.

Doberge · 2024-09-27T10:26:47-0400

HauntedPirate said:
Estimated number of total points for the CFW (from dvcnews.com): 2,780,943.

Thanks! I saw where dvcnews mentioned how the first two declarations were inconsistent (when they divided declared points by number of cabins declared the math was different) but it sounds like they figured something out.

Eric Graham · 2024-09-27T10:28:21-0400

nickys said:
Disney (almost) never officially cancel anything not yet completed.

I only put almost in that sentence in case someone (ahem @BrianLo) can think of an example.

Sorry, haven't followed

nickys said:
Disney (almost) never officially cancel anything not yet completed.

I only put almost in that sentence in case someone (ahem @BrianLo) can think of an example.

Sorry haven't really followed this page in quite awhile, my apologies. Just read this news today.

Doberge · 2024-09-27T10:28:35-0400

nickys said:
Good catch. I’m ignoring them lol!

I thought your wink was because of the cabins and that you were playing along so that's why I laughed. Apologies if it seemed like I was rude.

HauntedPirate · 2024-09-27T10:29:43-0400

Doberge said:
Thanks! I saw where dvcnews mentioned how the first two declarations were inconsistent (when they divided declared points by number of cabins declared the math was different) but it sounds like they figured something out.

No problem. It's the only place I peruse occasionally that has point information like that (for current resort sales) readily available, and I was just looking at the August sales the other day. Morbid curiosity and all that.

nickys · 2024-09-27T10:30:40-0400

Doberge said:
I thought your wink was because of the cabins and that you were playing along so that's why I laughed. Apologies if it seemed like I was rude.

Didn’t seem rude at all!

BrianLo · 2024-09-27T10:32:29-0400

nickys said:
I only put almost in that sentence in case someone (ahem @BrianLo) can think of an example.

Challenge accepted! I wracked my brain and finally thought of some. It's even a hotel!

Disney pulls the plug on its proposed luxury hotel in Anaheim, citing the loss of a tax break

The Walt Disney Co. has canceled plans to build a 700-room luxury hotel near its Anaheim resort, citing the city’s elimination of a tax rebate agreement that would have saved the media giant $267 million over 20 years.

www.latimes.com

Politically motivated is the answer. Lake Nona is the other.

Gusey · 2024-09-27T10:52:46-0400

nickys said:
Disney (almost) never officially cancel anything not yet completed.

I only put almost in that sentence in case someone (ahem @BrianLo) can think of an example.

I have a few more:

Hollywood Land & Dick Tracy @ Disneyland "Link"
Hyperion Wharf was described as "a few preliminary plans that we felt didn’t measure up to our aspirations for this place." "Link"
Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty meet and greets in New Fantasyland. Seven Dwarfs Mine Train "will be in place of some of the earlier plans we shared regarding opportunities to interact with your favorite princesses." "Link"

(P.S. Disney has now deleted all of the park blog entries from before they updated their site, so wayback machine has proved helpful.)

Disstevefan1 · 2024-09-27T11:09:35-0400

Nottamus said:
Not real until I see balloons ….

Do they even care enough to put up balloons these days?

Today its:
Build a generic tower.
Give it a name that includes DVC in the name and imply a theme.
SELL, SELL, SELL DVC.

TheIceBaron · 2024-09-27T13:34:05-0400

I wonder if bookings or DVC sales of Poly tower have impacted the decision to renew this project. If they are getting positive sales numbers then I guess we are getting Disney’s Reflections of Marriott Resort & Spa

larryz · 2024-09-27T13:41:20-0400

Nottamus said:
Not real until I see balloons ….

Balloons would mean they care about sightlines. That hasn't happened since the Xandarian Invasion of 2017.

nickys · 2024-09-27T13:41:36-0400

TheIceBaron said:
I wonder if bookings or DVC sales of Poly tower have impacted the decision to renew this project. If they are getting positive sales numbers then I guess we are getting Disney’s Reflections of Marriott Resort & Spa

The Poly isn’t on sale yet.

It will sell well initially with lots of smallish add-on purchases from existing members who want more points to stay in bigger rooms.

Starship824 · 2024-09-27T13:50:40-0400

Disstevefan1 said:
Do they even care enough to put up balloons these days?

Today its:
Build a generic tower.
Give it a name that includes DVC in the name and imply a theme.
SELL, SELL, SELL DVC.

I'm hoping this mindset has changed since a lot of those Gensler people are out of WDI.

Club Cooloholic · 2024-09-27T15:18:52-0400

Disstevefan1 said:
They make MASSIVE money from DVC!

Massive initial buy in (that expires in time) and the sweet, sweet, annual dues that keeps coming in forever..

I GOT IT!

DVC campsites!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't put it past them. Or maybe they will stick in some park models, and folks can live in them for 4 months at a time.

MouseEarsMom33 · 2024-09-27T17:00:30-0400

TheIceBaron said:
I wonder if bookings or DVC sales of Poly tower have impacted the decision to renew this project. If they are getting positive sales numbers then I guess we are getting Disney’s Reflections of Marriott Resort & Spa

I wonder if the project was never dead, but postponed. I believe the cabins needed to be replaced. So maybe the original plan was Reflections and then cabins. But with COVID they had to to replace the cabins first.

Starship824 · 2024-09-27T17:32:23-0400

MouseEarsMom33 said:
I wonder if the project was never dead, but postponed. I believe the cabins needed to be replaced. So maybe the original plan was Reflections and then cabins. But with COVID they had to to replace the cabins first.

Well, that is exactly what the permit said, one of them at least.

Unbanshee · 2024-09-27T18:32:03-0400

Looks like work is underway

FIRST LOOK: Construction Begins for 10-Story 'Reflections' Fort Wilderness Hotel

Walt Disney World has begun early construction for the Fort Wilderness hotel previously announced to be Reflections DVC

blogmickey.com

Disstevefan1 · 2024-09-27T18:41:41-0400

They are finishing the Poly DVC.
Instead of renovating the Cabins at Fort Wilderness, they will rip them out and put in DVC IKEA tiny homes.
Now Reflections DVC.

Disney's finance committee sure loves the money machine called DVC.

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