Radio Disney Has Clout With Kids

General Grizz

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Radio Disney Has Clout With Kids
Pete Schulberg
Portland Tribune

If there's any doubt who has the upper hand between parent and child, get a load of this statistic: Seventy-two percent of the audience for kid-oriented Radio Disney is listening to the station in the car.

That's major clout on wheels. Either that, or Mom and Dad are afraid to punch in their favorite station, fearing that the small fry in the back seat will hear bad language, naughty lyrics and newscasts filled with death and destruction.

"We're all about the music," says Pamela Herrold, station manager of KDZR (1640 AM), Portland's Radio Disney station and one of 60 Disney-owned stations across the country where Hilary Duff, Stacie Orrico, Aaron Carter and even Creed rule the airwaves.

"And we're not the theme park," she adds.

In other words, while the station obviously takes advantage of the Disney brand -- the programming originates from a studio at Disney World -- you're more likely to hear Britney Spears' latest hit than anything performed by Mickey Mouse or Snow White.

Or as the ubiquitous ads on the bus benches put it, "It's not kids' music. It's music kids like." True, it's broadcast on clarity-challenged AM radio -- Radio Disney is one of the few AM stations still playing music -- but the quality should be improved in two years when (like TV stations) the transition will be made to a digital signal.

Radio Disney's targeted demographic is the "tweener." That's the 8-14 age group, which accounts for $150 billion in purchases annually, according to Martin Lindstrom in his book "BRANDchild." Do the math and that comes to $150 a week per kid, Lindstrom says. Either allowances have mushroomed or the younger set has reached new levels in arm-twisting.

"It's the nag factor," says Herrold, who launched the station a year ago on Valentine's Day after serving as a marketing director for the Portland Entercom stations. "It's startling how much influence our kids have on adults' buying habits."

That's why McDonald's and Albertson's are advertisers on the station. There's even research out there indicating that by the age of 10 a child becomes loyal to a brand of automobile -- and that loyalty extends into adulthood.

Next to the tweeners, the second largest demographic listening to Radio Disney are the moms -- specifically, the moms driving the kids around. "The Radio Disney (adult) listener is pretty much the same in every market," Herrold says. "The average income is $75,000-plus. Both parents are educated and they're definitely parents that have disposable income with their child."

While there is no locally produced programming coming out of the station's tiny Southwest Portland studio -- except for commercials, promos and public service announcements -- KDZR sponsors events such as "Rock 'n' Recess" which goes into area schools each Friday with a show featuring young local performers (and no Mickey). The station also is a big booster of the Community Transitional School that serves more than 100 homeless children.

Because the Arbitron rating service only measures listeners from the age of 12 on, KDZR doesn't show up in the Portland radio ratings. But according to Herrold, the time-spent-listening for an average Radio Disney listener is three hours per day, and over the past six months, national listenership is up 18 percent.
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All I have to say about this...and sorry for being so firey tonight...

BURN RADIO "DISNEY". :fork:

:fork: :brick: :hurl: :brick: :hurl: :hammer: :mad: :mad: :fork:

(well, minus that charity stuff.)

FOLKS - we've lost the focus to the buck.
 

meowthew

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Sometimes I don't understand Disney "fans" at all. Radio Disney has ALWAYS been the home of bad pop music for 8-to-14-year-olds from the very first day, and because it's the ONLY radio station that does that, it's very successful, and one of the few financial bright spots in the Walt Disney Company.

And by playing the music kids like, Radio Disney is building up a new generation of Disney fans, who will then grow up and introduce their kids to Disney -- that's the way Disney has always worked. Radio Disney could play "Zip A Dee Doo Dah" and Annette Funicello records all day, but kids wouldn't listen, adults wouldn't listen -- aside from a very small group of nostalgic Disney fans -- and there would simply be no point.
 

xfkirsten

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Originally posted by meowthew
Sometimes I don't understand Disney "fans" at all. Radio Disney has ALWAYS been the home of bad pop music for 8-to-14-year-olds from the very first day, and because it's the ONLY radio station that does that, it's very successful, and one of the few financial bright spots in the Walt Disney Company.

And by playing the music kids like, Radio Disney is building up a new generation of Disney fans, who will then grow up and introduce their kids to Disney -- that's the way Disney has always worked. Radio Disney could play "Zip A Dee Doo Dah" and Annette Funicello records all day, but kids wouldn't listen, adults wouldn't listen -- aside from a very small group of nostalgic Disney fans -- and there would simply be no point.

Yeah, but I think it all basically boils down to a matter of opinion. In my personal opinion, they do NOT put the effort into the music now that they used to. It just isn't up to par with the nostalgic Disney music. It's something churned out quickly and shoddily (with sub-par artists, IMHO) just to turn a quick buck off a star's name. And to me, therein lies the difference.

-Kirsten
 

meowthew

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You have somewhat of a point there. But Walt himself was the one who started popping out multiple low-quality pop records by Annette and Hayley Mills in the early 60s to capitalize on their popularity at the time, despite the fact that neither was very good vocally.
 

prberk

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"Music kids like" is partly formed by the what is fed to them. They are, by definition, learning and new. Almost everything is new to them. Kids only learn what they have on their plates: ultimately things put there by adults.

Radio Disney should not be playing sexually suggestive songs, as some of these are. It matters what we feed kids.

New or old, there is a lot of worthwhile music for children out there. And, given a little airplay, it will gain a fan base.

Hayley Mills and Annette were not any better singers than Brittany and Justin, but they were good role models that made fun music. That can still happen (and still does). It just need to be played.

I do especially like the local talent shows that they sponsor. No reason that clean, uplifting young harmonies from those shows cannot be broadcast....
 

meowthew

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Originally posted by prberk
[BHayley Mills and Annette were not any better singers than Brittany and Justin, but they were good role models that made fun music. That can still happen (and still does). It just need to be played.[/B]

But it is being played. Disney's own wholesome stars Hilary Duff, Raven, Christy Carlson Romano, Lindsay Lohan and The D-Tent Boys (from Holes) are currently all over Radio Disney's Top 30 playlist, along with Clay Aiken and Christian artists Stacie Orrico and Jump 5. That's about as good as role models come these days.
 

General Grizz

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Originally posted by prberk
"Music kids like" is partly formed by the what is fed to them. They are, by definition, learning and new. Almost everything is new to them. Kids only learn what they have on their plates: ultimately things put there by adults.

Radio Disney should not be playing sexually suggestive songs, as some of these are. It matters what we feed kids.

New or old, there is a lot of worthwhile music for children out there. And, given a little airplay, it will gain a fan base.

Hayley Mills and Annette were not any better singers than Brittany and Justin, but they were good role models that made fun music. That can still happen (and still does). It just need to be played.

I do especially like the local talent shows that they sponsor. No reason that clean, uplifting young harmonies from those shows cannot be broadcast....

Exactly!

Now, listen when I say this

So what if kids like it? I'm sure like kids like Nickelodeon. Should DISNEY buy this??

The Disney Radio should be about Disney - FAMILIES. Disney is about families. That is the true intention set out by Walt - since 1928 when a little mouse showed up on screen all the way to 1983 when the Image Works was built where both parents and children could have fun together.

These pop singers - many of them who sing songs even about 'masturbation' and show up on television stripping - is what kids are listening to (i.e. Britney Spears).

Disney does NOT need to support this.

Radio Disney is a total degration of the Disney name. Do you understand what I am saying??

ANY company could go out and make CDs like this. Disney will soon suffer because its traditional, unique image is being destroyed by taking over all that is not "Disney."

It disgusts me. Let's have Britney Spears attractions at the parks, why don't we???
 

MKCustodial

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Originally posted by meowthew
But it is being played. Disney's own wholesome stars Hilary Duff, Raven, Christy Carlson Romano, Lindsay Lohan and The D-Tent Boys (from Holes) are currently all over Radio Disney's Top 30 playlist, along with Clay Aiken and Christian artists Stacie Orrico and Jump 5. That's about as good as role models come these days.

Hillary Duff is a role model? :eek:


My priorities must be all wrong...
 

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