Question about COP at DLR... (when did it leave, etc...)

nelsonj3

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Original Poster
I haven't been to Disneyland since 1994, and I can't remember if Carousel of Progress was there or not. I can't remember partially because I've been to WDW so many times in between.

Where was COP at Disneyland? What is there now? Did Innoventions replace COP? If so, that's terrible.

Thanks in advance... and Sorry! I'm somewhat of a Disneyland noob!! :animwink:
 

TP2000

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Carousel of Progress was at Disneyland from 1967 to 1973 in the Carousel Theater building. In 1974 a new show debuted in the Carousel Theater called America Sings. America Sings was at Disneyland from 1974 until 1988. From 1988 until 1997 the Carousel Theater was empty. In 1998 Innoventions opened in the Carousel Theater and has been operating there ever since.

And yes, Innoventions is a horrible replacement for both the Carousel of Progress and America Sings. The building still spins, but the stuff inside is junk and has very little entertainment value.
 

nelsonj3

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Original Poster
TP2000 said:
Carousel of Progress was at Disneyland from 1967 to 1973 in the Carousel Theater building. In 1974 a new show debuted in the Carousel Theater called America Sings. America Sings was at Disneyland from 1974 until 1988. From 1988 until 1997 the Carousel Theater was empty. In 1998 Innoventions opened in the Carousel Theater and has been operating there ever since.

And yes, Innoventions is a horrible replacement for both the Carousel of Progress and America Sings. The building still spins, but the stuff inside is junk and has very little entertainment value.

So it's basically just like Innoventions at WDW? :lol: (Except WDW Innoventions didn't take the place of anything except Communicore).

Thanks for the info!
 

cherrynegra

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TP2000 said:
And yes, Innoventions is a horrible replacement for both the Carousel of Progress and America Sings. The building still spins, but the stuff inside is junk and has very little entertainment value.

Couldn't agree more. What a waste!!!
 

darthjohnny

Active Member
When I was there last year in March 2005, they were redoing the outside for the 50th anniversary. What did they do to it, or was it just a paint job?
 

CoffeeJedi

Active Member
ok, DUMB question time
is WDW's CoP the same original from Disneyland and the World's Fair, shipped there in '73, or is it a copy?
 

ScrapIron

Member
CoffeeJedi said:
ok, DUMB question time
is WDW's CoP the same original from Disneyland and the World's Fair, shipped there in '73, or is it a copy?
I believe it's the same, although there are likely some differences from updates and refurbs.

Cheers.
 

Expo_Seeker40

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Good question because some people make statements that Disneyland had their own CoP and WDW has their own CoP. Which is completely false. There is one and only one CoP that has been to NYC D-land and WDW.

The only thing that made it from the trip from NYC to D-land were the sets themselves. A new pavilion was constructed, as was an identical theater system, and carousel core.

For the WDW the sets did come, even though the 1964/1967 ending was completely changed. A new pavilion was constructed, as was a new theater system but this time the theater rotated counterclockwise. NOT clockwise like the 1964 and 1967 versions did. Why they did this I have no idea. :rolleyes:
 

CoffeeJedi

Active Member
thanks expo!
when did the current final scene premier? i remember my parents remarking that it was new in the early 90's, what was the original "future" scene like?
 

Expo_Seeker40

Well-Known Member
Well the funny thing is...the original "future scene" wasn't even supposed to be futuristic at all. It actually was supposed to be "today". Actually all of them are supposed to be "today" and were except for the current ending.

One must remember that the original CoP script is like a 20 minute GE commercial. Though forms of it are still used in the current 1994 version, I must say I think the 1994 version sucks when compared to the elegant orchestral music, and optimisitc approach to the original CoP.

Now understand this: The Carousel family DOES NOT age 100 years. They are meant to show a typical american family ala walt disney style. They REPRESENT what a family would be going through during that time period via electroncis and other products on a humurous note. While we the audeince see vast progression, the carousel family is only getting older by 3-5 years with every scene. :wave:

The original ending occured around Christmas 1960-1963

It was Christmas Night and Mother and Father were all dressed up a bit preparing for Christmas dinner. Orville and the Children (who both are old enough to drive by now) have gone to get Grandma and Grandpa at the town/small cities newly constructed airport. Grandma and Grandpa now live away in a retirement community.

From our viewing left we see a green and formeica contemporary kitchen :hammer: with Rover sitting on the kitchen floor.

In our viewing center is the living room. Father is on our left in a chair. and Mother is on our right sitting on a couch with the family Cat.

To our viewing right is the x-mas tree, color TV, and dining room.

A much upbeat and chearful ending is presented to the audience, ensuring tomorrow is a dream but today is truly a beauitful technological experience.

The audience then enters GE's nuclear power demonstration in 1964-65

In 1967 the post show was a 4 minute EPCOT Model futuristic approach.

In 1975 the finale was completely redone to x-mas in the 70s. This scene was cosmetically redone in 1981 for x-mas in the 80s. And in 1994 was redone to be x-mas in the year 2000. Because of this the scene has outdated features. But the set and its layout are mostly the same as it began at WDW in 1975.

In my opinion the CoP should have an overhaul. I don't care if the show is still presented in the "wrong direction" LOL. But even if a new cast is hired they should read from a very close script of the 1964 version. And that ending should come back. Tomorrowland is no longer about the future. But if a new 4 minute pre show can be presented by the metro historical society and better tell why it ends in the 1960s, I think guests will be far better emmersed in a great big beautiful attraction!

Here is a link to a picture of the 1967 ending of the CoP. It was extremely similar to the 1964 ending, though the backdrop of suburbia was now EPCOT and some appliances were updated. Enjoy!

http://www.disneypix.com/Pana-Vue/Disneyland/Tomorrowland/VP62A9 - Modern Christmas.jpg.htm
 

CoffeeJedi

Active Member
Expo_Seeker40 said:
I haven't heard any responses....was my information ok. :veryconfu :lookaroun
oh! yeah, good stuff
seeing the pics did bring back extremely fuzzy childhood memories from the 80's, i almost remember the old final scene now
 

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