Projection in Journey into Imagination

Inuchan

New Member
Original Poster
In the queue line and throughout the ride, there are irregular shaped signs and screens that have video and animation projected onto them. Is there a trick to how they project onto these shapes?

What kind of equipment would I need to pull off the same effect professionally?

I own a bar and would love to make a "sign" like these displaying my logo that animates every once in awhile. Making the video itself is easy for me. I am just a moron on the mechanical side.

Any help is appreciated.
 

FigmentJedi

Well-Known Member
I'm thinking that the master videos are set up so that the image is within the Institute logo shape, the surrounding area being clear and uncolored.
 

Inuchan

New Member
Original Poster
So basically I design the animation to fit the screen I build, but how do I keep it from projecting outside of the screen? Are there special lenses or do I put some kind of stencil in front of the lense to keep it from lighting outside of the screen? Would it not blur through just a stencil (or whatever the correct word would be)?

Can a digital projector not project light in some areas and project it in others based on the source material? If not it would take some addition to the equipment side I would guess.
 

mickhyperion

Active Member
Are you sure they are projections? They always looked like custom shaped tv screens to me. The queue seems too brightly lit to be able to effectively use projections.
 

Rob562

Well-Known Member
So basically I design the animation to fit the screen I build, but how do I keep it from projecting outside of the screen? Are there special lenses or do I put some kind of stencil in front of the lense to keep it from lighting outside of the screen? Would it not blur through just a stencil (or whatever the correct word would be)?

Can a digital projector not project light in some areas and project it in others based on the source material? If not it would take some addition to the equipment side I would guess.


You're on the right track...

They are rear-projected screens. I'll have to take a look at the setup the next time I go, but as I recall, the screens are angled downward at you, which means the actual projector is probably somewhere up in the rafters near the ceiling above and behind the suspended screens.

Chances are, the projection is "shuttered" so that the light coming out of the lens is only the shape of the screen it's aimed at, and nothing around it. (Otherwise, you'd have blank space around the edges that aren't exactly "black" but rather a little bit of light).

Not 100% sure how Disney accomplished it, and I haven't worked much with video projectors, but it's probably a metal pattern installed *inside* the projector (as opposed to in front of the reflector). It's the same way theater stage lights (which I *do* have experience with) project patterns. A metal "gobo" (basically a thin sheet of metal with the pattern cut out of it) is placed between the bulb and the lens assembly. It blocks out all the light except the pattern that you want. (One thing to remember is that because of the optics of the lenses, the pattern needs to be installed upside down. The lenses will then flip the image rightside up.) You were right that a pattern between the projector and the screen wouldn't do anything (at least not as sharp-edged as what you're looking for).

If your video projector's lens assembly can be totally removed, you could probably install a cutout inside. But if you do this, you need to a) make sure that the material can stand the heat of the lamp, b) that you don't block TOO much of the opening, because the blocked light gets reflected back and dissipated as heat, and c) that this increase in temperature won't harm the projector.

Also, this will most likely void any warranty on the projector, so it's "proceed at your own risk".

-Rob
 

beanboon

Member
The projectors are right in front of the cutouts.

To achieve the same effect you would create your animation to fit inside the cutout shape and leave the rest of the image black.

Just takes a little experimentation.
 

palmage

Member
Video Projection is my business and I do a lot it around Disney.
Everybody's right on this.
DLP projectors have really low black levels, so anything outside of the projected image simply disappears and can't be seen.

I did the projection many years ago at Planet Hollywood, at that time DLP wasn't around and we had to use double stacked LCD projectors to get the brightness needed.
They actually had circular gobo on the LCD's to make a circle for the big screen in the middle.

I've done fun projection things all over Orlando.
 

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