Pooh issue going to Trial

orlpassholder

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Greetings all with the breaking news

AFP is carrying the following

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - A sticky one-billion-dollar lawsuit against Walt Disney Co. over the cash generated by the lovable bear Winnie the Pooh will finally go to trial next year, lawyers said.

The decision was revealed as Disney was dealt a new blow in its bid to hang onto Pooh profits.


An appeals court Wednesday refused to take up an appeal by Pooh creator A.A. Milne's granddaughter, a Disney ally, seeking to reverse an earlier ruling barring her from reclaiming the rights to her grandfather's characters.


Los Angeles Judge Charles McCoy last week tentatively set a January 10, 2005 date to hear the decade-old breach of contract suit brought by Patricia Slesinger, who claims her family was shortchanged out of hundreds of millions of dollars in royalties by The Walt Disney Co, lawyers said.


The case centres on the US marketing rights to the honey-guzzling character, created by British author A.A. Milne and popularized by the Disney entertainment empire.


The heirs of Stephen Slesinger, who bought the US rights from Milne in 1930 and began licensing them to Disney in 1961, claim the powerful firm has cheated them out of hundreds of millions of dollars in royalties.


Among the issues at stake, are revenues from computer software, DVDs and videotapes, merchandise that mostly comes in formats that came into being after the agreement was signed.


Pooh revenues, said to be the most of any character that Disney markets, are estimated to be in the region of three billion to six billion dollars a year.


Slesinger has asked for a judgment that would include compensatory damages of at least 700 million dollars, unspecified punitive damages, and the right to terminate all future rights of Disney to exploit the lucrative range of Winnie the Pooh characters.


The epic case has been fraught with delays, complications and dramatic twists over the years.


In 2002, Walt Disney Co. suffered a major blow when it lost an appeal involving sanctions to be slapped on it for the destruction of key files linked to the battle of the bulging bear.


The judge has set a February 24 hearing date for claims that the Slesinger side to the dispute stole documents from trash bins on Disney movie studio lots.


Disney claims that Slesinger hired private detectives to break into its headquarters to steal papers related to the case.


Slesinger attorneys deny the charge, but acknowledge recovering some paper from publicly accessible Dumpsters.


Following a parade of lawyers, Slesinger is now represented by Hollywood celebrity attorney Johnnie Cochran, who successfully defended football icon OJ Simpson against charges that he murdered his wife in 1994.


Cochran said earlier: "We need to get all this stuff out of the way about who went through what trash" to get to trial.


Meanwhile, a federal appeals court in San Francisco refused to take up an appeal by Milne's granddaughter fighting an earlier ruling barring her from reclaiming the rights to her grandfather's characters.


An attempt by Claire Milne, an ally of the Disney company, to reclaim Pooh's merchandising rights was rejected by a federal judge in Los Angeles last May.

"It's common knowledge that Clare Milne was unfortunately born disabled and that these complex matters are beyond her understanding," said a Slesinger family spokesperson.

"Obviously Disney was behind this manipulation from the start."

Disney had hoped that her case would bolster its merchandising rights battle with the Slesingers.

"Hopefully, Disney is done delaying and is ready to go to trial," Cochran said after the appeals court decision on Wednesday.
 

murphy

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If this lawsuit goes through next year how much will this amount of money affect WDW? Will we see increasing prices, layoffs, and poor maintanance, or will the cuts be to other things that disney owns?
 

orlpassholder

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all depends on the outcome of the trial. If they get hit with the full suit settlement ya I imagine there would some increase in prices etc
 

cherrynegra

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Yes, but other than raised ticket prices, can you imagine what will happen if they decide to revoke all rights to Disney?? No Pooh at Disney?? I shudder to imagine the worst.
 

orlpassholder

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Originally posted by cherrynegra
Yes, but other than raised ticket prices, can you imagine what will happen if they decide to revoke all rights to Disney?? No Pooh at Disney?? I shudder to imagine the worst.

It would be a huge loss since pooh does outsell Mickey next to Stitch and Nemo
 

cherrynegra

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Yes, I read that Pooh generates something like three to six BILLION dollars. That's a lot of money. Now, what if the talks with Pixar don't go well later this year? I had hoped that they would reach a resolution over the Pooh rights, but I guess not. Guess it's time to slug it out in the courts.

And now the Slesingers have hired Johnny Cochran as their lawyer. I can hear the phrase now. "If Disney has been noncompliant, you must find for my client." :lol:
 

orlpassholder

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Originally posted by cherrynegra
Yes, I read that Pooh generates something like three to six BILLION dollars. That's a lot of money. Now, what if the talks with Pixar don't go well later this year? I had hoped that they would reach a resolution over the Pooh rights, but I guess not. Guess it's time to slug it out in the courts.

And now the Slesingers have hired Johnny Cochran as their lawyer. I can hear the phrase now. "If Disney has been noncompliant, you must find for my client." :lol:

If anything they will try to settle out of court before it hits big time and get ugly.

I can hear the great cochran lines now
 

cherrynegra

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The funny thing is that, although I may be wrong, Cochran generally does criminal cases since he's a criminal defense lawyer. This is definitely a civil case. Very strange bedfellows.
 

orlpassholder

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Originally posted by murphy
Disney losing the rights to pooh WOULD be the biggest loss of anything ! Disney just wouldn't be the same!! LOVE POOH

I agree there it would be huge but to me the loss of Walt has always and should remain the biggest loss
 

murphy

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The loss of walt goes without saying. I grew up with walt every sunday night, before cable,internet or any other material things. I have walts biography and many pictures of early years in my photo albums of WDW! He was extremely intelligent and insightful!
 

brisem

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I'm not an attorney but the keys to this case is
1) Does the Court allow the paperwork recovered from the dumpster. Could be considered an illegal search and sezure(sp).
2) What was the original deal. Did Disney honor it.
3) In that contract-was there a provision for future media. If there wasn't a provision, then video's, DVD's CD-ROMs etc can't be counted inthe damages.


As for Johnny Cochane--he'll be the face in front of the cameras and right before trial, he'll turn it over to a Civil Attorney.
 

FigmentJedi

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Originally posted by orlpassholder




Following a parade of lawyers, Slesinger is now represented by Hollywood celebrity attorney Johnnie Cochran, who successfully defended football icon OJ Simpson against charges that he murdered his wife in 1994.



"Hopefully, Disney is done delaying and is ready to go to trial," Cochran said after the appeals court decision on Wednesday.
Disney is gonna lose Pooh, because Johnnie Cochran is just going to use the dreaded Chewbacca Defense.
 

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