Pixar considering rebooting some of it's earlier films

DKampy

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Movies such as Incredibles and Finding Nemo were mentioned

As much as I am critical of people who hate on Disney before even seeing the final product… If true this is really disappointing… as Pixar is one of the few studios able to create original stories and succeed at the box office… and IMO will only lead to an inferior product compared to the originals
 

Miss Rori

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That will bring people back to see Pixar movies. Really!

Maybe they can make a live action Toy Story. Live action Finding Nemo with CG fish.
What genuinely disturbed me is that the higher-ups are telling directors not to tell stories drawn from personal experiences the way Luca, Turning Red, and Elemental were, and to go for more "mass appeal". Just trying to please focus groups isn't where good much less great art comes from, and the implication that audiences couldn't "relate" to those films doesn't hold water when the first two were dumped into the streaming void and Elemental became a qualified success in part because people who saw it really liked the allegorical immigrant story. It may have ultimately lost money but it did hang on a lot longer than most of the other underperformers last summer, and the article barely acknowledges that.

(Not to mention that over at WDFAS Wish was practically biologically engineered for "mass appeal" and we saw how well that worked out.)
 

Miss Rori

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The AV Club is hit and miss at best these days but they had a pretty thoughtful take on this matter that at least gives me comfort that I'm not the only one disappointed by their new-ish strategy (and also makes the valid point that "mass appeal" seems to mean "not about minorities"):
 

wtyy21

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Movies such as Incredibles and Finding Nemo were mentioned

I want rather ro see much of Pixar films be rebooted with a remastered 4K UHD format, that which encourage the moviegoers to see the Pixar films in a format that were never seen before at theaters. Both films are released when 4K UHD is still in infancy or not yet developed.
 

TP2000

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Movies such as Incredibles and Finding Nemo were mentioned


I'm confused. What is the difference between a "reboot" and a "sequel"?

They're going to do more sequels to their past successful films like Incredibles and Finding Nemo?

Or they are going to... reboot... like start again and tell the same story in a different way? Huh?
 

Phroobar

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What genuinely disturbed me is that the higher-ups are telling directors not to tell stories drawn from personal experiences the way Luca, Turning Red, and Elemental were, and to go for more "mass appeal". Just trying to please focus groups isn't where good much less great art comes from, and the implication that audiences couldn't "relate" to those films doesn't hold water when the first two were dumped into the streaming void and Elemental became a qualified success in part because people who saw it really liked the allegorical immigrant story. It may have ultimately lost money but it did hang on a lot longer than most of the other underperformers last summer, and the article barely acknowledges that.

(Not to mention that over at WDFAS Wish was practically biologically engineered for "mass appeal" and we saw how well that worked out.)
I remember Elemental made a ton from South Korea because of the art style and characters where based on Koreans. In the States there wasn't much else to show in that category.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
I'm confused. What is the difference between a "reboot" and a "sequel"?

They're going to do more sequels to their past successful films like Incredibles and Finding Nemo?

Or they are going to... reboot... like start again and tell the same story in a different way? Huh?
Reboot - tell the same story again but different (ie every Batman and Spiderman movie ever)
Sequel - continue the story (ie The Empire Strikes Back)
Seq-boot - continue the story by retelling the same story again (ie The Force Awakens, Ghostbusters 2)
 

Miss Rori

Well-Known Member
Browsing on Bluesky it seems more animation fans (and animation artists) have found this article and the response has been universal disgust regarding the whole "commonality of experience" conceit being pushed at Pixar now. Pointing out that the pandemic was a big factor in multiple films being sent to streaming, that the studio that bet the farm on Lightyear as their return to theatrical rather than Turning Red probably shouldn't go all in on sequels/reboots/whatever, the insulting treatment of the directors of Luca, Turning Red, and Elemental for daring to tell stories that meant something to them...it's not pretty.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Unless you're considering a live-action or CGI revisit of an animated film, I am extremely doubtful that there are any actual 'reboots.'

E.g., if Aristocats is to be revisited, it will be just a live-action/CGI version with some of the more problematic representations made non-problematic.

E.g., who's the father of the kittens, Duchess, WHO?!
 

CinematicFusion

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As much as I am critical of people who hate on Disney before even seeing the final product… If true this is really disappointing… as Pixar is one of the few studios able to create original stories and succeed at the box office… and IMO will only lead to an inferior product compared to the originals
Per Bloomberg:

“With a sequel, if you put something out there that doesn’t have the goods, then you will be punished for it,” Morris explained. “Having had the doldrums we did, it will certainly be a good test with Inside Out 2 for us to see: Does this stuff still work, or does it not?”

The potential reboots are still in the discussion phase, and Pixar’s leadership has emphasized that the success of their upcoming release, “Inside Out 2,” will significantly influence the direction they take. If “Inside Out 2” performs well, it could pave the way for more reboots and sequels, including those for “The Incredibles” and “Finding Nemo”

Here are the statistics for the percentage of movies that are reboots and sequels from 2019 to 2023. statistics provided include both theatrical releases and movies released via streaming platforms:

• 2019: 25.66%
• 2020: 25.97%
• 2021: 26.92%
• 2022: 27.85%
• 2023: 28.75%
 
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Phroobar

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So what about instead of rebooting, they render a new 4K version of Toy Story with updated assets. No changes to the story or voice acting or scenes. Just a 4K re-render with updated assets. The movie could look beautiful.

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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Has anybody actually shown any proof at all that Disney is thinking of rebooting older Pixar films?
People keep describing what Pixar has supposedly said behind paywalled articles.

Can y'all just copy-paste the paragraph where Pixar is quoted as saying they are considering *reboots* please?

Otherwise, I'm reserving my right to scoff at this suggestion and chose to believe that the "journalists" saying this don't actually know what "reboot" means.
 

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
People keep describing what Pixar has supposedly said behind paywalled articles.

Can y'all just copy-paste the paragraph where Pixar is quoted as saying they are considering *reboots* please?

Otherwise, I'm reserving my right to scoff at this suggestion and chose to believe that the "journalists" saying this don't actually know what "reboot" means.

I'm just going to start scoffing now. ;)
 

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