Photo help.

Christina

New Member
Original Poster
Not exactly for Disney but hey when I go back (Next summer YES) I'm pretty sure that i'll use this... I currently need this info for my photo class, which I haven't really been GOING to lately, under family circumstances.

How exactly do you freeze motion? I have a single lens reflex camera of no particular high techness... and I'm positive the shutter speed has to be a certain number, although I'm not sure what the number is.

If anyone could think of this number it would be greatly appreciated- after all I am using black and white film and over here in Canada it's pretty freakin expensive!

Thanks.
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The_CEO

Well-Known Member
My camera can capture anything from 15'' to 1/2000th of a second. The higher it goes the more of a chance it will turn out freeze frame.
 

Laura

22
Premium Member
using flash will also freeze motion. There really isn't any set shutter speed that freezes motion. If the object is moving really fast, then you need a super fast shutter speed to freeze it. If the object is barely moving, then you don't need as fast of a shutter speed to freeze it.
 

WDWScottieBoy

Well-Known Member
I bought myself a Canon Rebel T2 and the shutter speed is 1/4000 of a second, so that's pretty much frozen. There is no way to possibly get something frozen because...well...it's impossible to freeze time. The faster you can get the shutter speed the better. Also, go with 800 film if you can.
 
Laura22 said:
using flash will also freeze motion. There really isn't any set shutter speed that freezes motion. If the object is moving really fast, then you need a super fast shutter speed to freeze it. If the object is barely moving, then you don't need as fast of a shutter speed to freeze it.

If you can manualy control the shutter speed, flash won't help 'freeze' the object, just brighten it. If you cannot manualy adjust the shutter speed, as Laura22 said, adding flash to the picture can increase the shutter speed if the camera knows it's flashing. It should automaticly increase the shutter speed because of more light being available. I believe that's right.
 

Robfasto

New Member
Most of the time when using flash the camera will automaticly snyc the flash and shutter. On most camera's with a built in flash the shutter speed is someplace between 1/60 - 1/125 of a second, with that in mind when using flash on a moving object there is still a good chance of getting a blurred picture.

On the other hand as mentioned the faster the shutter speed is the better chance you have a getting the object 'stopped'. Anything over 1/1000 of a second you can be pretty sure it will stop whatever you are taking a picture of.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Everyone pretty much said all that needs to be said, other than GO TO CLASS!!! :D :lol:

Freezing motion generally starts at 1/250th of a second without a flash, With a flash, about 2 stops brighter than the ambient light. (As everyone goes "Huh"? Unaminiously)
 

s2jrston

Active Member
PhotoDave219 said:
Everyone pretty much said all that needs to be said, other than GO TO CLASS!!! :D :lol:

Freezing motion generally starts at 1/250th of a second without a flash, With a flash, about 2 stops brighter than the ambient light. (As everyone goes "Huh"? Unaminiously)
I think he means slower shutter speed and/or open the aperture and get a little less depth of field, when using a flash.
 

trdisneyfan

New Member
I really depends on what you want to "freeze". If you're just looking for nice clear everyday pictures (like your friends posing in normal light conditions, like sun or daytime shade) here's a GENERAL rule of thumb - just make sure your shutter speed is higher than your focal length, because you'll notice camera shake more as you zoom further and further.

For instance, if you're using your lens at 50mm, make sure your shutter speed is at least 1/50 sec. If you're using your lens at 125mm, your shutter speed needs to be at least 1/125, etc, etc.

If you are looking to freeze faster objects, such as the jumping fountains near Imagination, i'd say make sure your shutter speed is at least 1/500 sec.

Overall, set your camera lens to it's widest possible aperature (the smallest number) and let the camera decide the shutter speed for you - AKA "Aperature Priority", which has been available on most SLR's since the 1980's. This method will give you the fastest possible shutter speeds with the given amount of available light, and your best chance at freezing the subjects in your photos.

If you're shooting something and your camera won't give you faster speeds, like any time after dusk, consider using a flash - just make sure you allow the camera to set the shutter speed at no more than 1/125 sec while using flash, otherwise it won't sync up and you'll get half-lit pics. Any flash will freeze any motion, but you might see a bit of residual streaking from the ambient light hitting the object in motion. This effect can be pretty cool.

Here's another one of my favorite tricks... If you're using B&W film of limited speed (like 400), you can always just "push" it to 800 (or higher). Just tell your camera you have a faster film speed than what you're using, then just develop it differently (usually longer) it to compensate for the lower light it was exposed to. This will make for a grainier picture, but that's life. Your photo teacher should be able to tell you how to do this, or just research it online. Just keep in mind you'll have to push the entire roll - you can't shoot normally for the first half and push the second half.

Happy shooting!
 

barnum42

New Member
Load your camera with high speed film, which will give you a better chance to use a higher shutter speed. The higher the shutter speed, the better chance for freezing motion.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
s2jrston said:
I think he means slower shutter speed and/or open the aperture and get a little less depth of field, when using a flash.

No, thats a slow synch flash.

Im going for the basics, if i remember my basic photo class, youre just looking to freeze motion, not necessarily using a flash. To do that, 125th or 250th should be fine to do that for teh average person.

However, if you or your subject is moving... lets say your trying to photograph on that bumpy ol Kilimanjaro Safarais with a long lens of 200-300 mm. You need to be shooting around 1/1000 as your shutter speed..... Or you need to be thwacking the driver for hiting ever pothole in the park... ;)
 

SewIn2Disney

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PhotoDave219 said:
However, if you or your subject is moving... lets say your trying to photograph on that bumpy ol Kilimanjaro Safarais with a long lens of 200-300 mm. You need to be shooting around 1/1000 as your shutter speed..... Or you need to be thwacking the driver for hiting ever pothole in the park... ;)

So what you're saying is that a tripod will not work on Kilimanjaro Safaries... ;)

Just Kidding :lol: If my photography teacher heard that, he'd be the one thwacking me over the head.

I just bought a Nikon camera with a 380mm zoom, and I completly forgot about KS. I was thinking of all the great distance shots I'd be able to get. (The castle decoration in particular) and I was so excited I completly forgot about bumpy rides. Guess it's back to the manual to read up on shutter speed for me.
 

s2jrston

Active Member
SewIn2Disney said:
So what you're saying is that a tripod will not work on Kilimanjaro Safaries... ;)

Just Kidding :lol: If my photography teacher heard that, he'd be the one thwacking me over the head.

I just bought a Nikon camera with a 380mm zoom, and I completly forgot about KS. I was thinking of all the great distance shots I'd be able to get. (The castle decoration in particular) and I was so excited I completly forgot about bumpy rides. Guess it's back to the manual to read up on shutter speed for me.
I think Dave likes to crank up the ISO to get a little faster shutter speed. I've never done it but sounds interesting. I think use of a monopod on KS is possible for long shots. The vehicle would have to be still.

Christina, are you using flash or available light? Long lense? Portrait or landscape?
 

SewIn2Disney

Well-Known Member
s2jrston said:
I think Dave likes to crank up the ISO to get a little faster shutter speed. I've never done it but sounds interesting. I think use of a monopod on KS is possible for long shots. The vehicle would have to be still.

Christina, are you using flash or available light? Long lense? Portrait or landscape?
Hmmmm....sounds interesting. I'll have to play around with that.
 

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