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PhilharMagic arch

disneydata

Well-Known Member
Pulleys and steel cable if I'm not mistaken. You can see if coming down when Mickey makes his appearance at the end of the show. When is goes up, if you look REAL close just before the Beauty and the Beast scene starts, you might see it go up. That's a bad spot because if just went from light to pitch black.
 

attisb

New Member
If you watch the Disney Channel they have a commercial that runs showing PhillharMagic and they show really quicky in the commercial how it works with the lights on.
 

Illumineer

New Member
the arch isnt really that big. It has to be a rail b/c it does fly out and its not a soft good. So there must be enough fly space to take it out
 

Blizz

New Member
I've worked in theatres with no fly space and have made items fly. They are using a computer to playback the footage and music and I am guessing the timecode tells the computer to fly out the legs and teaser at the percise moment that you go into darkness and back in at the end. To fly a piece of that size you only need as much space as what your flying and then maybe 5 or 10 feet more. The show building that houses it is rather large (dont forget you go down a rmap to enter the theatre and then the house slopes down again from there). My guess is the stage is at the same level of the utilidors.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Blizz said:
I've worked in theatres with no fly space and have made items fly. They are using a computer to playback the footage and music and I am guessing the timecode tells the computer to fly out the legs and teaser at the percise moment that you go into darkness and back in at the end. To fly a piece of that size you only need as much space as what your flying and then maybe 5 or 10 feet more. The show building that houses it is rather large (dont forget you go down a rmap to enter the theatre and then the house slopes down again from there). My guess is the stage is at the same level of the utilidors.
I doubt that the stage is that low, as there is something like 16 ft. of dirt on top of the utilidors. I don't remember the ramp being that steep !!

Could be that the legs etc. are also partially rolled-up ?!?(just a guess)
 

Illumineer

New Member
no, you know what i think might be it. right after the top of the procenium wall the arch might get flown out on a slight horizontal angle. like it goes straight up( out of your sight) and then back towards what would be upstage in an actual theater.
 

Blizz

New Member
Illumineer said:
no, you know what i think might be it. right after the top of the procenium wall the arch might get flown out on a slight horizontal angle. like it goes straight up( out of your sight) and then back towards what would be upstage in an actual theater.

Doubt that, it would not be able to fly back in as quick as it does.

unkadug said:
I doubt that the stage is that low, as there is something like 16 ft. of dirt on top of the utilidors. I don't remember the ramp being that steep !!

Yes, the ramp is not that steep, however when you take into account the slope of the ramp and the slope of the house itself it could easily drop down to near that level. It might not be at the exact level but it does go down far enough to give it enough fly space.
 
Stage

The stage is at the same level it was at for the Legend of the Lion King. The floor of the pit for that show was probably 10 feet above the floor of the tunnel and the top of the stage was about 6 feet above that, so the total would be about 16 feet.

When they built the new show, they were supposed to raise the roof up "because the stage was so big." The stage doesn't appear any taller than it was, so I suspect the roof was raised to fit the arch system in.

What kind of system and how it works is for the experts. I just know the space very well and that is all the light I can shed.

-Billy
 

disnyfan89

Well-Known Member
The arch Is also two or three pecies so its possible that when it flys out everything is on a different fly rail so it can condence
 

Chape19714

Well-Known Member
I was lucky enough to be evacuated from the Fantasyland Theater, and I'm pretty sure I saw 2 Auto Counterwieght flyrails. 1 for the top, which only moves up a lot less than the sides, which are slightly behind the top. The rails move at different speeds. This is all on memory from preview weekend.
 

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