Parks gone to the dogs...

draybook

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What is with all of these dang dogs in the park? More specifically, the lady with the poodles. Yesterday, security actually "closed" the women's bathroom behind Imagination because she was using it. I'll be damned if I am refused a public bathroom because of someone with a dog. My wife said that people have had run-ins with her and that she's very difficult. Anyone else experienced this madness?
 

geekza

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I'm sure she probably found some kind of loophole to declare her poodles as "Support Animals" and has threatened to sue under ADA if cast members don't let them in the parks with her.
 

ThanksPhoenicians

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What is with all of these dang dogs in the park? More specifically, the lady with the poodles. Yesterday, security actually "closed" the women's bathroom behind Imagination because she was using it. I'll be damned if I am refused a public bathroom because of someone with a dog. My wife said that people have had run-ins with her and that she's very difficult. Anyone else experienced this madness?
Yeah, if someone locks me out of the public bathroom because they'd like it all to themselves and their "support animals," I'm raising hell.
 
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Minnesota disney fan

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I'm thinking that one of the dogs made a mess in there because there were 2 custodial ladies waiting for her to come out and they didn't look happy at all.

I agree that was the case - they closed it so janitorial could clean up after the dog mess.
It shouldn't be a surprise to Disney that these things will occur. I feel bad for the CM's who have to clean up after these animals. The whole thing is ridiculous in the first place. IMO
 

ELG13

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Is there not a way to verify of these animals are actual service animals? Emotional support dogs I didn't think counted for much more than a tag, but I was under the impression they were not allowed everywhere like and actual service animal.
 

geekza

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Emotional Support Animals are not covered by ADA because they aren't trained for a specific function, but I guess there are some state and local laws that allow for them to come into public places. If this lady had multiple poodles, though, I'd raise an eyebrow at their validity as a mental health necessity.
 

ELG13

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Emotional Support Animals are not covered by ADA because they aren't trained for a specific function, but I guess there are some state and local laws that allow for them to come into public places. If this lady had multiple poodles, though, I'd raise an eyebrow at their validity as a mental health necessity.
Ugh. I was in Walmart the other day and a woman was wearing a poodle on her chest like a baby...literally.. in a harness facing out. With a big red tag that said emotional support dog...while she was browsing the fruits and veggies. I live on the beach and there are signs EVERyWHERE that say no dogs expect for designated dog beaches (which are about 3 miles from the main beach) and the amount of people that bring their dogs is baffling. We've had dogs pee on our stuff, scratch our kids on the water while chasing a ball...I don't understand why people think they can just do that. It's like me brining my kids to a no kid restaurant bc the sitter cancelled but I still wanted to go to dinner.
 

Sans Souci

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What is with all of these dang dogs in the park? More specifically, the lady with the poodles. Yesterday, security actually "closed" the women's bathroom behind Imagination because she was using it. I'll be damned if I am refused a public bathroom because of someone with a dog. My wife said that people have had run-ins with her and that she's very difficult. Anyone else experienced this madness?

Poodles? She has more than one dog with her? They closed down an entire restroom for her?
 

JohnD

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What is with all of these dang dogs in the park? More specifically, the lady with the poodles. Yesterday, security actually "closed" the women's bathroom behind Imagination because she was using it. I'll be damned if I am refused a public bathroom because of someone with a dog. My wife said that people have had run-ins with her and that she's very difficult. Anyone else experienced this madness?

I saw that lady last week. Damnedest thing I ever saw.
 

Smooth

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LAKid53

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Florida Legislature recently passed legislation cracking down on individuals representing their pets as service dogs. The law makes it a second-degree misdemeanor to misrepresent a pet as a service animal. The law also limits service animals to dogs and miniature horses. 18 other states have passed similar legislation.

Here's a link to the statute...

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Secti...ntType=StatRev&PublicationType=S&BillId=53081

The American with Disabilities Act requires all places open to the public, such as businesses, government agencies and entertainment venues, to give access to service dogs and their owners. And it permits them to ask only two questions: whether the dog is required because of a disability and what tasks the dog is trained to perform. It is illegal to request documentation for the dog or to ask the nature of the owner's disability. However, the law also requires service animal owners to keep their animals under control and allows service animals to be removed from a business or other public place if the animal is not under the handler’s control, is not housebroken or poses a serious threat to others.

With regards to the lady and her poodles, Disney would be within the law if after the bathroom incident, they asked her to leave the park.
 

LAKid53

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One time, after passing through bag check at MK, I heard a bark behind me. A woman was bringing a purse dog through security and when the security CM leaned over to look in the bag, the dog barked at him. I heard him ask the lady to remove the dog so he could check the bag. She made some comment about the dog being her service animal, but she complied. The dog really started barking then and snapped at the security guy. But she got through. Under the existing law, she could - and should - have been refused entry.

A disabled woman confined to a wheelchair testified in her state what happened to her service dog when they encountered one of these fake support dogs. She and her dog were on an elevator, the dog sitting on the floor next to her. A woman with a large purse gets on. Almost as soon as the doors closed, a purse dog jumps out of the lady's bag and attacks the snout of the poor service dog, causing it to bleed. The disabled woman said her dog never moved, barked or defended itself, as that's what they are trained to do. She called it "all 4 down", i.e., all 4 paws on the ground. The woman with the fake first said her pet was a service dog. But later admitted she lied because she wanted to bring her pet with her.

Something will be done eventually. Not only are these fakes a nuisance and threat to others, but they are a real danger to those expensive and highly trained legitimate service animals and the owners who depend on them. I can't imagine what that poor woman felt watching her dog being attacked by some purse dog because some entitled woman couldn't leave her unruly pet at home.
 

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