No Song Of the South DVD Release

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
I would like to see it released, but is the possible negative reactions worth it? In fact, I'm really not sure that it would bring in a lot of money with a release. I dare say that most people (other than some loyal disney-philes) would NOT run out and buy the DVD.

Don't really think it's a big deal. *shrug*
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Pardon the language, but what a load of crap. Iger loses some rep points in my book. Song of the South should be released - if controversial movies like 'Fahrenheit 911' or 'The Passion of the Christ' can be released, so can this.
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
HauntedPirate said:
Pardon the language, but what a load of crap. Iger loses some rep points in my book. Song of the South should be released - if controversial movies like 'Fahrenheit 911' or 'The Passion of the Christ' can be released, so can this.
Why?

What's the gain? I can't see that it would bring in that much money. I could see some groups getting upset enough to cause more harm than the revenue the DVD would generate. Think about it... the ONLY positive here is a few bucks from the DVD and I just don't think there's a fan base big enough to make that much money.
 
I've seen it on DVD at toys shows (of all things)...they are definitely boot legged, but hey, if you want it that bad...

I think the main difference between the movies you mentioned and this one is that Song of the South deals with a very strong stereotypical view of blacks. Even though it's just a cartoon and a cartoon that is dated, a lot of society hasn't quite moved on enough from the times that this cartoon was made. There have been many steps to ending racism, but it's no where near being close to eradicated. Just the undertones of the film alone would be a cause for groups like the NAACP (is that right?) to go crazy on Disney. I don't see the film as being racist, but I also don't have a fresh memory of the film either. Splash Mountain takes the best part of this cartoon and brings it to life, but it hides what the films theme. I really would like to have this toon on DVD, just so I can have a complete collection, but I don't want it to the point that it might cause Disney to alienate people.

I read in another post, that someone thought they should do another movie with Brer Rabbit and Co., but to be honest...who really in the general public wants that? I'd say that probably only 1% of Americans would actually want a cartoon dealing with those chracters. They have become very obscure (which is why I like em) and they are only recognizable by people who either follow animation and/or by people who visit Disney, but even those who visit Disney, probably aren't remembering who they were as they walk out the gates at night. I could see slipping them into a TV show like House of Mouse with cameos, but that's about it. These characters are great and I love Brer Bear, his appearances throughout the ride are some of the best and as much as I would love this to be on DVD, you really have to think about how many people in the general public (who don't know about these characters) are actually going to buy this DVD? I honestly believe it would probably be the worst selling Disney DVD of all time. At least with the cheap-quels, you are dealing with established characters that people recognize.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
My first post was pretty knee-jerk to the news, sorry about that.

I don't like Iger's excuse that it could offend some people - big deal, I stand by my comments about other controversial films being released. If he said, "Hey, there just isn't a big market for the film, we would lose money on it", I could respect that. Whether there's a large market for it, I don't know, and I don't know if anyone knows for sure. There's only one way to find out, and that's to take a chance. ;)
 
I actually had an idea that came to mind...it holds no merit, just my own thoughts....

I don't like Iger's excuse that it could offend some people - big deal, I stand by my comments about other controversial films being released.
When I read this quote....something smacked me right in the head and I was like...."Oh, maybe that's it.." So, my mind made up this explanation which could very well lean towards the truth...

Name the last controversial film that was released under the "Disney" title. Film companies can release controversial films all they want and so can Disney, but when it comes to Disney Feature Animation they have an image to uphold. When the film was made - things talked about in SotS were more common day thought (more or less) whereas today, they can spark a sharp backlash against the company. Disney Feature Animation is seen by everyone as the pinnacle of animation, a company that creates animated films that are family friendly and don't down play races or play up stereotypes. The release of SotS could very well tarnish the image of a company that trys very hard to play no favorites...a place where no matter what your race is that you are welcome. I don't believe that Disney wants to create a hostile environment for any of it's guests, by releasing SotS it could very possibly create an environment that could alienate a good portion of it's guests - not only from the parks, but also from it's animated films.

When you ride Splash Mountain, the stereotypes that are present in the movie and so played down that most people just consider it a fun ride with these amusing side characters and goofy little side songs.

I think that Iger is probably just trying to play it safe. If SotS (theoretically, of course) would be released and cause a backlash by minority groups then the entire company is affected, not just the film. Disney must make money for them to be successful (that is how companies are measured), if there is backlash from any group of people that feel as though they have been alienated, then they see "Disney" as the problem...not Song of the South and the name "Disney" encompasses so much more than Song of the South.

I believe the saying of: "Sometimes the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few or the one" is pretty appropriate here.

Do you sacrifice a companies image which they've been building over the years since Walt's death over the release of a single film? (This of course could be argued that it would have no affect on the company, but people are rather touchy when it comes to racial matters and the last thing the Disney is going to want to do is alienate people which could be eventual customers - it's just not good business).

I think you really need to try and examine both sides of this fence closely and try to think about why they may not be releasing it. I for one want this movie more so than any other movie they've made - I love the characters, but I also have made myself think about the reasons behind the hesitation of its release and try to understand them.

I don't know if any of this made any sense or not, sometimes I start rambling....but hopefully it will allow you to think about perhaps some reasons that maybe hadn't surfaced yet....:rolleyes:
 

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