No More Cro ??!!

alicenwondrland

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Original Poster
I dont know if this is true but someone just told me that they are phasing out CRO. It will go away next year and you can only book through WDTC. I cant think this would be a good thing.
Does anyone know anything about this ?


:cry:
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
That wouldn't be a very good move--we book through the Walt Disney Travel Co. anyway, but it wouldn't be the best move to limit guest planning features too much--I understand encouraging guests to use the WDTC with perks like the unlimited Fastpass at Disneyland, but completely closing CRO would be excessive. However, it would certainly simplify the reservation system for wdw by consolidating both offices. I can see why they would do it from a business perspective, but I'm not sure it will really happen.
 

alicenwondrland

New Member
Original Poster
no more cro

yeah I was speaking with a friend in Florida and she said she heard Jan 2004 !
that would change cancellations to 30 days and that is well bad ( nicest word i could think of) I mean I loving being able to wait til 5 days before emergencies happen, we alos have alot of military in the family and that would change alot for us. Would this also mean you have to pay in full upfront or can you still do that at check in? I think this has alot of implications? Someone told me mary from mousesavers had something on her site about them hiring 200 new agents for WDTC and only training them for WDTC not CRO. This is an interesting new development.:hammer:
 

Yellow Shoes

Well-Known Member
Actually I thought cancellation without penalty was 45 days with WDTC.

It has always seemed that an excessively long time before your trip, which I why I liked CRO's 5-day policy.


Is 45 days before the trip for cancelling common in the travel industry, or does WDTC do this just because they can?
 

s25843

Well-Known Member
From http://wdwig.com/resort.htm
(there is alot more than I posted so check out the site)

WDW Reservations

There are two ways you can directly book your reservations for your Walt Disney World vacation. Both the Central Reservations Office (CRO) and the Walt Disney Travel Company (WDTC) can assist you. And while the two different Disney Offices both accept resort reservations, their policies differ significantly.

No matter who you talk to, everyone seems to have an opinion in the CRO Vs WDTC "which is better" debate. The question really shouldn't be "which is better". Rather it should be "what's the difference"?

AREN'T CRO AND WDTC SEPARATE COMPANIES?
Yes and no. Seems that people are under the mistaken impression that WDTC and CRO are two separate and distinct places with separate staffs in different places. This is not the case. Everyone is in the same room at the Disney Reservation Center (DRC). WDTC Cast Members (CMs) are trained in CRO procedures but the reverse is not necessarily true. Nearly every person who is in WDTC started with CRO. A CM needs to be trained in both to handle WDTC calls. This is because both CRO and WDTC draw their available resort rooms from the same Central Reservation System (CRS) program. Money is handled separately, too. In most cases, you will not be able to transfer your already paid deposit between the two companies if you change your reservation. You will have to get the old reservation cancelled and refunded while putting down a brand new deposit on the new reservation.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN WHO MAKES YOUR RESERVATION?
CRO CMS take Disney room only and certain package reservations and enter them into the CRS reservation system. WDTC CMs are trained using software that allows them to book your air, airport transfers or rental cars as well as your Disney resort just like travel agents can. CRO books the major "Annual Products" (WDW vacation packages, i.e., Resort Magic, Discovery Magic, Deluxe Magic, Grand Plan) as well as some published discount codes. Think of it like this -- CRO books on-site, Disney-supplied components ONLY (hotel, admissions, dining, recreation, etc.). WDTC's claim to fame is "all-inclusive" vacations, i.e., trip insurance, air, transfers or rental cars (yes, WDTC DOES BOOK RENTAL CARS!), hotel, admissions, and any other components a guest may want (meals, recreation, etc.).

With regards to the Swan and Dolphin, Downtown Disney Resort Area Hotels, and the 30 or so Disney Good Neighbor Hotels, these can be booked by both CRO and WDTC. All Good Neighbor bookings come as a package (only!) with special Length of Stay Park Hopper/Park Hopper Plus passes (NOT Ultimate Park Hoppers). There are a few selected Good Neighbor hotels that can only be booked by WDTC, but most are booked in CRO as well. The Downtown Disney Resort Area Hotels can be booked in CRO as room-only or Resort Magic packages.

WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES IN TERMS BETWEEN A WDTC RESERVATION AND A CRO RESERVATION?
There are several differences in terms between CRO and WDTC:

A CRO room only reservation requires a one night's deposit within 14 days. If arrival is less than 30 days out, deposit is required at booking. The balance is due at resort check in. MasterCard, Visa, American Express, Discover and The Disney Credit Card are accepted. You may also mail a check or money order. You may change or modify your reservation up to 5 days prior to arrival at no charge. Cancellations up to the 6 day mark will have your deposit refunded in full. Cancellations after the 6 day mark will be charged the one night's deposit as a penalty. Any additional amounts that may have been paid on the reservation will be refunded in full.

A CRO package booked 30+ days out requires a one night deposit within two weeks of the booking date. If arrival is less than 30 days out, deposit is required at booking and payment in full at 21 days to arrival. Cancellation up to 6 days prior to arrival gets a full refund. Cancellation within 5 days of arrival forfeits the original one night deposit (the rest is refunded). There are no "change fees" for modifications in CRO.

A WDTC package (including the "room only" Basic Package) requires a $200.00 deposit within 14 days of booking. The balance will be due 45 days prior to check in. Checks, money orders, MasterCard, Visa, American Express, Discover and The Disney Credit Card are accepted. Cancellation between 6 and 45 days prior to arrival will result in a $100.00 fee. Cancellation 5 days or less will incur a $200.00 fee. Any change or modification of the reservation inside the 45 day mark will incur a $50.00 fee.

A WDTC Disney Club Package - If you are a Disney Club member, you are required to book through WDTC but DC members are given different terms than the general public. A deposit of $100.00 is required within 14 days of booking. The balance is due 21 days prior to check in. Cancellations made 5 days or less prior to arrival will incur a $100.00 fee. Changes or modifications made 21 days or less before arrival will incur a $10.00 fee.
 

Maria

New Member
Thanks for that post, S25843. I was about to ask what the difference was.

I am still not sure what they will do in terms of organizing the two departments, but, I don´t see much difference in them. As a business, I think CRO was "wasting" some profit that could have been earned by WDTC (fees, early deposits, etc.), so I could see CRO merging into WDTC. I would probably leave CRO making all the restaurant priority seatings and those kind of reservations and let WDTC work with all the other reservations (hotels, rentals, packages, etc.). Would that make sense?
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Maria
Thanks for that post, S25843. I was about to ask what the difference was.

I am still not sure what they will do in terms of organizing the two departments, but, I don´t see much difference in them. As a business, I think CRO was "wasting" some profit that could have been earned by WDTC (fees, early deposits, etc.), so I could see CRO merging into WDTC. I would probably leave CRO making all the restaurant priority seatings and those kind of reservations and let WDTC work with all the other reservations (hotels, rentals, packages, etc.). Would that make sense?

Well, exactly. When people cancel reservations for hotels 7 weeks in advance, Disney still has an opportunity to give their room to someone else, but when you cancel 6 days before, Disney may very well end up having to leave that room empty, which costs the company money. Priority seatings, however, aren't really reservations, but more like Fastpasses, so still letting people cancel those a few days ahead w/o penalty doesn't necessarily create problems--they just take more walk-ins.

With a WDTC package, don't you get traveler's insurance anyway? I know when I went to Europe, my traveler's insurance said that if there were a true emergency, like a death in the family, keeping you from keeping your reservation, they would refund everything but the initial deposit. Shouldn't that be the case here, if it's REALLY an emergency (not "the weather forecast doesn't look good")?
 

strobe

New Member
Originally posted by alicenwondrland
I dont know if this is true but someone just told me that they are phasing out CRO. It will go away next year and you can only book through WDTC. I cant think this would be a good thing.
Does anyone know anything about this ?


:cry:

OK - I have fallen victim to another WDWMagic acronym. What is CRO this time? Anyone????? Thanks!
 

s25843

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by alicenwondrland
i thought it meant central reservations office

Your Right, It does

CRO-Central Reservations office books room only ressies, and the 407 WDW Dine calls. They have 2 call centers in Tampa and Orlando
 

prberk

Well-Known Member
The five-day cancellation policy is all that they need on either system. Charging a fee for cancellations up to 45 days in advance is rediculous and offputting in what is an otherwise friendly, customer-service environment.

Disney, as much as I love it, is already the most expensive game in town. They cannot tell me that they need the forfeited deposit a month in advance any more than more modestly-priced, smaller businesses do (and they do not charge that far out in most cases). All it does is make the customer mad and encourage them to book at the Marriott or Hard Rock next time (or just skip it all and go to the beach). But Disney got the one-time $100! Woo-hoo!

Yes, the convenience of one-stop shopping at WDTC is good, but the fees and regs are not.
 

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