New Monorail Proposal.

lazyboy97o

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This model has been discussed before. As they current exist, the Innovia 300 series is too large for the clearances along the Walt Disney World Monorail System.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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Too bad they couldn't upgrade them to the Bombardier MVI trains similar to the Vegas monorail (Plus they did used 2 MARK VI's in Vegas for initial runs) at least it has more of an open feel..And the technology came from WDW..
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copcarguyp71

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How busy is the monorail during peak season? We usually go Sept/Oct and it is honestly pretty easy to get a car to yourself or darned close to it.
 

AndyS2992

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How busy is the monorail during peak season? We usually go Sept/Oct and it is honestly pretty easy to get a car to yourself or darned close to it.
Pretty easy to get a car on your own in early August too so the monorail can't be that popular outside of park opening and closings.
 

lazyboy97o

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Too bad they couldn't upgrade them to the Bombardier MVI trains similar to the Vegas monorail (Plus they did used 2 MARK VI's in Vegas for initial runs) at least it has more of an open feel..And the technology came from WDW..
I am not sure there would be all that much that would really be upgraded by moving from the current Mark VIs to the Innovia 200s (formerly the M-VI). I would imagine the interior of the existing trains could be changed. It might even be possible to add the level entry doors to the Mark VIs, but the bigger expense would be raising all of the station floors.
 

Bairstow

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This model has been discussed before. As they current exist, the Innovia 300 series is too large for the clearances along the Walt Disney World Monorail System.

This new train is, what, 3.55m high and 3.14 wide?
How big are the Mark 7s?

I remember reading somewhere that they had to do quite a bit of modification to the Contemporary just to fit the Mark 7s through there.
 

montyz81

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Original Poster
Too bad they couldn't upgrade them to the Bombardier MVI trains similar to the Vegas monorail (Plus they did used 2 MARK VI's in Vegas for initial runs) at least it has more of an open feel..And the technology came from WDW..
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They used the Mark IV monorails for WDW.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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They used the Mark IV monorails for WDW.

Yeah A typo from me...

From Wikipedia about the Las Vegas Monorail
The monorail uses nine Bombadier MVI trains that have four cars in each of the fully automatic trains. The guideway is built to the "ALWEG" track standard. For the first seven years, the line only ran as the MGM Shuttle, between MGM and Bally's stations. During this time, two ex-Walt Disney World Mark IV trains were used. Though the Las Vegas and related train equipment appear superficially similar to the original ALWEG design (as exemplified by the Seattle system), their suspension and propulsion systems differ substantially. A Seattle train may be walked end-to-end which is impossible on a Las Vegas or Florida train
 

lazyboy97o

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This new train is, what, 3.55m high and 3.14 wide?
How big are the Mark 7s?

I remember reading somewhere that they had to do quite a bit of modification to the Contemporary just to fit the Mark 7s through there.
I do not know the heights off hand, but the issue is two fold. Not only is the Innovia 300 taller than the Mark VIs, but the floor of the cabin is also higher up from the top of the beam.
 

lazyboy97o

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So much for stroller and wheelchair access, eh?
It'd be a big step for everybody. There is about a 10" difference in the top of beam to floor height. For comparison, a contemporary stair will have a maximum rise of 7".

Here is the technical page for the INNOVIA 200 (M-VI) if you would like to compare yourself, but you will have to convert between millimeters (on the posted INNOVIA 300 technical page) and inches.
http://www.monorails.org/pdfs/INNOVIA 200.pdf
 

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