New Monorail potential

montyz81

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Has anyone seen the new monorail by BYD? I am very impressed and feel like this should be the evolutionary replacement for the current fleet. It is the right time to get this done especially with all the investments going on in all 4 parks. http://www.wsj.com/articles/byd-launches-monorail-transport-system-1476418442
 

Jahona

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I definetly like this design over the current Bombardier/Innovia designs. The Innovia just have a flat face that looks to similar to other current transportation methods. The BYD keeps that futuristic looking longer nose.
 

montyz81

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Why. The current model seems to be working fine. I can't see making the huge investment, because they look a little better.
You must be an employee of current upper Disney management. They are likely extremely inefficient, they do break down more now then they did in the 90s. They are using designs that are not futuristic anymore. Lastly, the original Mark IV's were all replaced after 20 years or there about. The current fleet have been in services for well past that time frame. 1991 - present vs 1971 -1991. They are pushing 30 years old. I can't imagine they are saving Disney Money because they didn't replace them.
 

lazyboy97o

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You must be an employee of current upper Disney management. They are likely extremely inefficient, they do break down more now then they did in the 90s. They are using designs that are not futuristic anymore. Lastly, the original Mark IV's were all replaced after 20 years or there about. The current fleet have been in services for well past that time frame. 1991 - present vs 1971 -1991. They are pushing 30 years old. I can't imagine they are saving Disney Money because they didn't replace them.
The Mark IVs were replaced to increase capacity, not because they were failing. New trains currently offer little outside of newness. A good rebuild with new interiors would achieve the same results. Your biggest suggestion based on this new manufacturer is a new exterior look, which also does not require new trains.
 

copcarguyp71

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Didn't they just sink a whole lot of money into retrofitting the current units with automation and safety? If so then they probably are seeking to have them for a good while longer. I'd just be happy if they were cleaner inside and the A/C didn't have the musty smell....but the first gripe I guess really has more to do with the quality of guest than the quality of the system itself.
 

WDW Monorail

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You must be an employee of current upper Disney management. They are likely extremely inefficient, they do break down more now then they did in the 90s. They are using designs that are not futuristic anymore. Lastly, the original Mark IV's were all replaced after 20 years or there about. The current fleet have been in services for well past that time frame. 1991 - present vs 1971 -1991. They are pushing 30 years old. I can't imagine they are saving Disney Money because they didn't replace them.
This is such a misinformed post.
 

montyz81

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This is such a misinformed post.
Wow that is a bit harsh. If you read my post it is all mostly supposition and opinion. I'd agree that I took a liberty and made a blind statement about their reliability now vs the 90's. My information is based mostly on what I read on the internet which i agree is a bad way to base a statement. An argument could be made that there is more visibility of breakdowns now due to the internet and mobile devices. For that, I am guilty of making an improperly researched statement.

And yes, I would agree that I am looking for more of an update but including a dose of current technology wouldn't hurt. The amount of money spent on retrofitting automation into them has likely more then covered the costs of replacing them by now.

To say it was "such" a misinformed post is a bit of an arrogant misstatement. I suggest you relax and not get so uptight and self righteous over a set of suppositions.
 

montyz81

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The Mark IVs were replaced to increase capacity, not because they were failing. New trains currently offer little outside of newness. A good rebuild with new interiors would achieve the same results. Your biggest suggestion based on this new manufacturer is a new exterior look, which also does not require new trains.
I got to believe that adding updated technology to; propulsion systems, control systems, automation systems, environmental controls, ride systems (suspension, wheels, structural) not to mention redesigning the exterior would ultimately require replacing just about everything on the existing trains. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just replace them? I'd be curious to see how much the transition from the Mark V to Mark VII's cost as a comparison.
 

lazyboy97o

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I got to believe that adding updated technology to; propulsion systems, control systems, automation systems, environmental controls, ride systems (suspension, wheels, structural) not to mention redesigning the exterior would ultimately require replacing just about everything on the existing trains. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just replace them? I'd be curious to see how much the transition from the Mark V to Mark VII's cost as a comparison.
The Mark VIIs and Mark Vs did a lot of that and they are not wholly new trains. The Mark IIIs were the last entirely new fleet at Disneyland.
 
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P_Radden

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Guys, seriously though... A custodian told me on our last trip that they are going to expand the monorail all around the property, extend it to Celebration, and even have a public station that could tie into another rail to Universal!!! SWEET!!



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