New Early Entry Attractions Announced

[pheneix]

A list of attractions to be open during EE just popped up on Intercot, and while I'm still looking to verify it's accuracy, it does match up with what has been passed around in management.

Magic Kingdom:

Astro Orbiter
Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin
Cinderella's Golden Carrousel
Dumbo the Flying Elephant
"it's a small world"
Mad Tea Party
Main Street Vehicles
Peter Pan's Flight
Snow White's Scary Adventures
Space Mountain
ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter
Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Tomorrowland Indy Speedway
Tomorrowland Transit Authority

Epcot:

Spaceship Earth
Test Track
Universe of Energy

Disney-MGM Studios:

Jim Henson's Muppet*Vision 3-D
Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith
Star Tours
Twilight Zone Tower of Terror

Disney's Animal Kingdom:

Discovery Island Trails
It's Tough to be a Bug!
Kilimanjaro Safaris
Pangani Forest Exploration Trail
Rafiki's Planet Watch
The Tree of Life

The MK's list is on par with the amount of attractions available during EE's last run, but the attractions to be open at the other three parks is absolutely pathetic. Come on, three attractions for Epcot? With a selection like this, I highly doubt the new EE will be of much use to anyone visiting Epcot, or even Animal Kingdom for that matter.

 

[adr315]

Im willing to bet Mission:Space will open early with Epcot whenever it opens.....

 

[TravisMT81]

it looks like all the attractions at AK lmao :lol:

 

[David]

While I agree that I wish more attractions were open at Epcot, as a fan of EE, I'll take what I can get. More would be nice, but at least we have EE returning. (And just in time, I might add. 5 days to go:sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy: )

 

[RobFL]

I have to be at work at 7am tomarrow! And I'm the second person in!

But yeah, Test Track and UoE are the only things open in Future World East (I dissected the area's schedules to figure that one out) but I figured something would open in West.

-Rob

 

[RobFL]

If you figure everyone who goes rides Test Track, and then UoE, by that time it'll be the end of EE.

Or, if they'ee not thrill junkies, if they rides SE and UoE it'll take the full hour too.

So, it kinda makes sense.

-Rob

 

[mickey04]

Originally posted by pheneix
The MK's list is on par with the amount of attractions available during EE's last run, but the attractions to be open at the other three parks is absolutely pathetic. Come on, three attractions for Epcot? With a selection like this, I highly doubt the new EE will be of much use to anyone visiting Epcot, or even Animal Kingdom for that matter.

I must diagree. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the EE is only for an hour--- Universe of Energy takes some 30-35 minutes; SE takes a good ten more, and the rest of the time I would spend riding TT over and over until the park opened. I also agree with adr315 that M:S will probably be an EE attraction soon enough.

I'm just glad EE is back. If it successful, Disney will probably add more attractions.

 

[Lord Alfred]

There's nothing wrong with that list. It's only an hour. MK has tons open, as someone said UoE, SE, and TT take an hour at Epcot, MGM allows you to ride pretty much all the rides that you actually have to wait in line for (and factor in walking to those attractions and there's your hour). AK's KS takes a while and those other exhibits would take well over an hour.

This is a great deal, considering we were getting nothing before, and it's a perfect opportunity to point out something.

the attractions to be open at the other three parks is absolutely pathetic. Come on, three attractions for Epcot? With a selection like this, I highly doubt the new EE will be of much use to anyone visiting Epcot, or even Animal Kingdom for that matter.

Now this is either a complete lack of thought regarding the time requirements of the attractions or clear evidence of a negative, trollish bias. I know Disney's made some mistakes over the years, but obviously pheneix thinks they can do no right. Nothing he says or posts on the disney boards has an overall good connotation or optimistic slant at all. Any good news is reported and followed up with negative personal opinion stated as fact. Why would someone who hates the company and its direction so much post on these boards all the time? What's the point except to spread his ill will around to as many others as possible. I don't get it. Is he a troll? No. He doesn't pick fights or argue. He reminds me of something from my BBS days. Back when IBM's OS/2 was trying to be the anti-windows, there were a cadre of MS haters that went around to message boards sparking all sorts of anger and dissension toward the company in an attempt to sway people to switch. They were an unofficial (but secretly supported) group called "Team OS/2". pheneix reminds me of these people.

Sorry for the thread drift.

 

[DisneyKrazed]

In my oppinion everyone has a right to there oppinion. This is a message board and most conversations involve two if not more views on the subject. This is just Pheneix way of posting and his oppinion and I don't think people should just tell him hes wronge.

Sorry, continuing the thread drift.

 

[pheneix]

>>>MK has tons open<<<

I acknowledged that.

>>>as someone said UoE, SE, and TT take an hour at Epcot<<<

The amount of time that the attractions take up is not the issue, because it has already been stated that the attractions take up enough time to occupy people. But with several THOUSAND potential people that show up for these things, are three attractions really enough? If Test Track even works, it has a tragic ride capacity, and if three to four thousand people show up thinking they can "beat the crowds" (it doesn't matter if Epcot only has 5,000 people a day show up now, most people don't know that, and any event that offers a chance to get a few extra rides in before the park opens is bound to bring out several thousand resort guests regardless. It's the percieved value, and the reason that EE was brought back to begin with.), they're STILL going to wait an hour to ride the thing. And what happens when TT closes? Poof! Instant one-hour waits for NRG and Spaceship Earth.

 

[TURKEY]

I can't believe that I'm saying this, but I'm agreeing with Pheneix as far as Epcot goes.

I think that every park besides Epcot will be able to handle the load if a ride goes down and the demand that may happen with a large number of guests showing up for EE.

TT will probally be down. I'm not sure of the days of Epcot's EE, but I would guess that half the amount of time it's open early, TT will be down.

Either Journey or HISTA could easily be opened up. I would recommend one of them could really help spread the guest traffic out.

Living Seas (maybe have feedings then) could be open too. I think Living Seas costs for opening early would be rather minimal.

 

[mickey04]

If the system fails as pheneix seems to be sure that it will, people will complain. If it becomes so much of a problem that Disnye can see it is offering no advantage and people are complaining, they will probably do one of three things:
1. cancel EE again
2. Add more rides to Epcot
3. Completely ignore the issue

I think they learned their lesson in canceling it the first time, and I know that historically Disney doesn't really listen to guest complaints, in the case of EE, they did. Perhaps after testing this system they will improve it and add more rides.

 

[TURKEY]

Originally posted by mickey04
If the system fails as pheneix seems to be sure that it will, people will complain. If it becomes so much of a problem that Disnye can see it is offering no advantage and people are complaining, they will probably do one of three things:
1. cancel EE again
2. Add more rides to Epcot
3. Completely ignore the issue

I think they learned their lesson in canceling it the first time, and I know that historically Disney doesn't really listen to guest complaints, in the case of EE, they did. Perhaps after testing this system they will improve it and add more rides.

But Disney should already have learned their lesson. They know how frequent TT is down and the demand it puts on the rest of the park. If this happens, Disney won't be learning from their problems.

This shouldn't even be an issue, other rides should be open anyway, even if TT didn't even have its problems.

 

[RobFL]

Thoughts...

Test Track has a much better record lately. It no longer suffers from daily downtimes and they are much faster at reopening than before.

NRG will never have an hour long wait. It has an Operational Hourly Rated Capacity (OHRC) of 1767. The maximum wait time for the attraction, even during peak holidays, is 8minutes. It moves 500 people and 6 wheelchairs every 17 minutes.

NRG has been taking Test Track breakdown crowds since Test Track was built. Its our lot in life. It's not a lot, but it's a life.

The old rule used to be.. if Test Track breaks down, so will NRG. Lately, neither Test Track nor NRG has been breaking down. Test Track has closed mostly for inclimate weather and NRG rarely has problems anymore.

Then there is the "What do people want?" problem. Well, if you're going by the figures, the only attractions with "morning" numbers which spike between regular park opening and then world showcase opening, the attractions that are drawing people in are Test Track, NRG, and Spaceship Earth.

And about good ole reliable NRG, there was a park wide power outage last week. Everything in the entire park with the exception of Wonders and NRG lost power and was inoperational. NRG began running full shows for it's last hour of operation for the evening, but the wait time did not exceed 8minutes.

-Rob

 

[RobFL]

Gah...

I hate having statistics and first hand experience to back up my reponses.. it always kills the hypothetical conversations...



-Rob

 

[pheneix]

>>>The old rule used to be.. if Test Track breaks down, so will NRG. Lately, neither Test Track nor NRG has been breaking down.<<<

That's good. Now there will only be problems when the park is crushed with thousands of visitors over Thanksgiving. If they would just open Innoventions and Imagination (Innoventions to suck up the crowds and Imagination to balance the flow of people out) I really would not have a problem with it, but as it stands, having on three attractions open during a period that is advertised as "minimal waits in lines" is a recipe for disaster.

>>>And about good ole reliable NRG, there was a park wide power outage last week.<<<

OT Question: Was this for the same reasons as the infamous blackout was this summer?

 

[RobFL]

Not sure, but other smaller power failures have been blamed on the power company, and they've had cranes in and around the substation (i think that's what it is... the place with the fire from before) .

Currently, power glitches are said to be a problem from the provider - AKA: Not our fault.

However, those are small "burps" in the power, that do shut certain rides down and create a good deal of trouble, yet are isolated. This latest outage was a small fiasco effecting the entire park. The park extended its hours in future world with the exception of UoE, which won the right to close because we stayed open

-Rob

 

[RobFL]

Ah-ha!

I didn't fine tooth comb it, but the list above appears to match that posted for CM's on the Portal, so yes, there will only be 3 operational attractions at Epcot during EE.

-Rob

 

[Legacy]

Hey Rob... do you want a cookie for how efficient 'NRG' is? I'll throw one at you the next time I am at Epcot.

I am sure that you are the sole reason UoE is able to have under an 8 minute wait...

 

[RobFL]

Originally posted by Kicker
Hey Rob... do you want a cookie for how efficient 'NRG' is? I'll throw one at you the next time I am at Epcot.

I am sure that you are the sole reason UoE is able to have under an 8 minute wait...

Are we trolling for trouble....?

-Rob