New Disney Park in Washington, DC

tman2000

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I have had fun using Google Maps and MS Paint for this one. Bear with me as I employ multiple posts to get this across.

So, we know Disney has cancelled it's DC plans. There are a number of good reasons for this. But it really is unfortunate.

People often discuss a Disney Park in Texas, and I understand their frustration. Orlando and Anaheim are so far away - and isn't Texas warm enough for a year-round park?

Well what about the Northeast. It's pretty far from Florida, but is very wealthy. They're more willing to fly to Disney, but less willing to do it very often. So why not build a park in the Northeast? And DC is already a huge tourist destination and is fairly temperate most of the year.

But it does get cold.

I was looking at a map, and realized that Disney could build a park right in the middle of DC! It would be perfect for the city and for Disney.

In order to explain, I'll need to show you this map:

Downtown DC

Okay, so you can plainly see the 'touristy' areas of Downtown DC. They include the capitol and supreme court on the far right, and the Lincoln Memorial on the far left. The White House is the box going up. All the museums and memorials are in there too.

In between the White House and the Capitol are the museums you pay for (Newseum, Spy Museum, Crime Museum), and Chinatown and the Basketball arena.

South of the Capitol, on the river, is the Ball Park where the Nationals play. This is a very undeveloped part of town - not real dangerous - but not where you want to be late at night.

Now that your attention is there, notice the 'undeveloped waterfront'. One of the saddest things about DC is its under use of its waterfront. It could almost be an American Venice given the abundant waterways, the proximity to extensive boating in the Chesapeake Bay, and all the beautiful parkland and monuments along the water. One reason it has failed to realize its potential is seen on the map where I've labelled 'bad neighborhood'. The implications are pretty obvious. That's pretty much the most dangerous part of DC.

Where I've labelled Rich Neighborhoods is safe and quite wealthy. The 'Bad-ish' neighborhoods have historically had a lot of crime, but a lot of young professionals have moved there in the past two decades.

Notice the box that says "The Park". That's a part of town - East of the Capitol - that's not really a bad neighborhood - but is just across the river from a very bad one, and isn't a wealthy as other parts of DC.

The white circle by the river is the RFK stadium where the old Redskins used to play.

I think you could build a park here, for reasons I'll continue to elaborate on, but for now I would imagine Disney purchasing the land and homes of many here, and creating a vast development. This would revitalize the neighborhood, and inject life into the undeveloped waterfront.

The thing about DC is that it's very government focused. I'd love to see DC become almost a resort town as the gov jobs wind down over time. You'd preserve the monuments, but develop that underbelly - where it says 'Ball Park' - into a happening commercial and urban district for the very rich to live. Maybe open a new university or two.

Sort of like a Boston of the South, but with more and better tourist destinations.

Continue to the next post to learn a bit more about DC, then to hear my plan.
 

tman2000

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DC Explained Further

Consider this map:

Greater DC Area

DC is very wealthy. They can afford to go to Disney 10 times more than Orlando folks. The poorest county surrounding DC, Prince George's, is the wealthiest African-American community in the nation. There be gold here.

Downtown DC does have some very poor spots, but this park might be part of a revitalization.

I imagine Disney doing this swap where they offer condos in their development to middle income families at a moderate discount (so Diz still makes the money), while swapping those home deeds to the urban poor in exchange for the land to build the development. Eh, now I'm getting controversial. Point is, you can't just develop on developed land. But chances are best when the land is cheaper and less developed than much of the surrounding area.

That aside NOTICE THESE AMAZING FACTS! DC is a tourist MECCA. It has three MAJOR airports that connect to the Beltway via 8 lane highways. It turns out that these highways converge downtown right where I propose to build this park. You can also see I-95, I-270, and I-66 coming into town.

The location is perfect for a Disney Park. Think about how much synergy there would be between this park and national treasures nearby.

In this very zoomed out map:

Zoomed Out DC

Notice how the cruise ship routing into Baltimore easily accesses DC. I don't think DC has a large port for that, but you could probably arrange a water shuttle. And any average sized ferry can reach the river by the property I've labelled.

Okay, now let's talk about the Resort!
 

tman2000

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The Resort

Here is the Magic Kingdom overlaid by scale, on this part of DC:
Magic Kingdom Overlaid

See, perfect fit! In fact, it was easy because Space Mountain and RFK stadium are about the same size. The black lines are the walking paths in the Magic Kingdom. That will help give you a sense of scale.

I call my Resort, fondly, "Disney's America Resort"

Here's my master plan:
Disney's America Park DC

Notice the Metro access right there!

The river splits the property, creating a great vista. The islands are a perfect setting for nature and adventure activities. There were actually Native Americans living in this area long ago.

I've kept parking and maintenance on this far side, surrounding the hotel.

The Hotel is Called: Colonial Arms, and copies the brick Georgian architecture of Annapolis, Philadelphia, and Williamsburg. The pool is in the shape of a scroll, with the words of the constitution in tiles on the floor.

This hotel is for resort guests specifically, but has a conference center. It serves also as a home base to Disney guided, sponsored, or at least recommended activities in the DC area. The idea is, if you come to Disney, and also want to see DC, this hotel is your home base for both. There is a metro stop right next to this as well. It's sort of a bad neighborhood, but I would mitigate that by having guests take the resort monorail to the other metro stop by "Downtown America".

Yep, I didn't draw it, but a monorail naturally connects the hotel and parking to the green area via a stop overlooking the purple park.

The blue area, Columbia Landings, is a small boat harbor themed after colonial sailing - boston, charleston, annapolis, etc. The riverfront is at least. The interior is a similarly themed water park (DC is very hot in the summer). At least a large pool and some slides will be indoor and year round. So, in the winter you're not operating at peak levels, but you have water park access.

The yellow area, Yankee Yards, is a turn-of-the-century waterfront with a steamliner restaurant a la Tokyo DisneySea. It's also a place to host year-round events. The restaurants will be top-notch, and this area will host large group party boat launches (as opposed to being a small boat harbor).

It will also host a couple of small theatres. One will have a dedicated Disney show, or disney hosted show. The other will rent to interested theatre companies. Yankee Yards is open to the public - so long as they have a reason to be there.

Downtown America is totally open to the public. It's a mall/foodcourt/hangout. The metro is RIGHT THERE. Also, RFK stadium will be retained, structurally reinforced, and given some architectural touchups, and become "Disney Dome". This is a Disney-owned venue for very large events in the Mid-Atlantic region. It is inherently connected to Downtown America, but keeps its own parking.

See the roads going through? At least one will be kept, so that everyone going by can see how awesome disney is (these are elevated roads already, and the traffic is fairly light).

Now on to the purple area, Disney's America Park. The brown buildings are high-rise mixed commercial/residential. They make use of the real estate so it's not wasted, and so the land values overall are raised - making the park environment a bit safer and nicer. Besides, who wouldn't want to live or work at such an amazing place?

The buildings get taller from left to right, so that most West-bound windows have a PERFECT view of the capitol and monuments.

DC has bad height laws, but they might give Disney an exception. There is one place to get a decent view of the monuments in DC and that's the old post-office building. There is NO place with such a good view on the DC side of the river. This will be hot property.

The crescent building will be aesthetically appealing, and rise from being low on the sides to a point.

Pardon me for not adding two mouse ears, epic disney fail! They'll be there in real life.

The crescent itself hugs a dome which...

Read the next post! It's about the Park itself!!
 

tman2000

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The Park Itself

Here is the picture:
The Park

Holy Moly! I forgot to mention the KILLER FEATURE of the park. IT'S ENCLOSED AND TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED.

Ride buildings are self contained. These are kept either directly under the mixed development buildings, or in the valleys between them.

Most themed common areas - the walkways, are dark areas like blue bayou or the Mexico pavilion.

Some have glass enclosures.

The big one like this is in the dome hugged by the crescent. But let's do this in order.

The Monorail takes you to an entrance plaza squeezed between the Disney Dome, and the Downtown America metro stop. It passes through the park slightly first. You enter underneath the monorail into...

PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS PLAZA
This is styled in the Empire style of the White House and American Adventure Pavilion at Epcot. These are the 'alabaster cities glowing' of America the Beautiful. This is a Main Street of Heaven's Columbian Door.

The central feature is an ellipse that is oblong, growing from skinny to wide. This represents the growth and potential of the American dream. Here you'll find hall of presidents type attractions.

Next to this area is the MONUMENT VALLEY. This is under the dome. There's no themed false sky here, so you'll see the mixed-development building (this one's mostly commercial, part conference center - this conference center isn't vacation focused, but rather more business focused, unlike the Colonial Arms Resort).

That's okay, though, because this HUGE enclosed space will feature replicas of: Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty, St. Louis Arch, Mount Rushmore, Monument Valley, and so on. There will be a couple of eating spots here, and a stage for shows. The parades will go through here.

At night, instead of fireworks, you get an advanced light show perhaps more impressive than fireworks. All about AMERICA!

Beyond Monument Valley is the kids area, NATIONAL TREASURE NATIONAL PARK. This emulates Yellowstone and Yosemite and has rides based off of animal and nature characters. It's arranged in an open circle of C-rides - like TDS Mermaid Lagoon - but with big canyon walls and redwoods and stuff (cool, import a couple REAL redwoods).

This area opens out to the last two areas.

One side is PIONEER PASS. This is your generic Frontierland, but with a little bit more authentic and detailed theming. Expect a couple big E rides that hug the mixed development buildings a la Vegas.

The next side is BIG IDEA BOULEVARD. This represents America's innovation and ingenuity. It's all about technology and industry. There might be 3 or 4 E tickets here.

The whole place is connected by the very appropriately themed Union Transcontinental Railroad.

Well, that's it for now. I'm exhausted.

If you guys like this, I can try to outline a few of the E-tickets, or draw the park in greater detail.

Or you can throw in some ride suggestions.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Building something good in the middle of something bad as just an island is just prone to getting messed up by all the bad around it.

No one wants to worry about getting mugged as they walk out in a Disney parking lot.

No one wants to have street vendors harrass them as they sit at a stop light to get into a Disney park.

Nationals Park should show you just because you build a beautiful island - it alone can't change the land around it.

And DC politics would make it a nightmare. So much of DC control requires CONGRESS to take action - that means making Disney a national level issue to get things pushed through. I doubt they would want anything to do with that.

I don't know why they even associated themselves with the National Harbor project to start with. It's such a horrible location completely isolated from all the tourist side of DC and the mass transit.
 

phinedroid

New Member
Well, that's a pretty ambitious project. I can only imagine how expensive it would be. It would probably cost double what all of WDW cost before they even broke ground. I don't mean to be a downer, but traffic in DC is already horrible, this would make it ungodly. You'd have opposition saying that they already have a big theme park in a rough neighborhood not very far from this, too. I mean, it would just be a logistical nightmare of epic proportions. Plus, they didn't want Disney to build a theme park in, essentially, an open field near (not on, just near) an historic battlefield. I can't imagine that they would welcome them to bulldoze poor people's homes in the city to do it.

You're right that it does have a lot going for it in terms of location, but it would be a more-than-monumental task.
 

tman2000

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Part of my inspiration is this idea that the country will go bankrupt.

I've always tried to think about 'post-government' DC, whose value would inevitably for tourism and history.

So, I'm assuming that the planning boards would bend over backwards for projects like these, and the environment would be completely different than it is now.

Mostly, though, I was just trying to think of how to re-use an urban space.

In theory, this is a great use of the Anacostia Riverfront.
 

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