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Nascar Pepsi 400- 7.06.02

MonorailBlack

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Just wondering who watched the Pepsi 400, and what you thought? Glad to see Mikey win, which Dale Jr stuck it out behind him to stay 2nd. My heart went out to Dale Jarret in his accident...but I also rolled out of my chair laughing when he walked about a quarter mile back to pit row b/c the ambulance took too long- go DJ. As for Gordon, he dissappoined me, I expected better. It'd be nice o post after the races, if anyone is interested.:sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy:
 

Fievel

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I play Nascar Racing 2002 Season in an online league, so we always have message boards discussion during the races.

Gordon's problems were not his fault. Punctured tire....he never could get back into it. He had a good car, but that's racing.
 

MonorailBlack

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Yeah, my disappoint was not any fault of his...he faught so hard, but everybody was so smart..they knew if he is fast enough to pass me to get a lap back...he's fast enough to pass me for the lead...oh well, love his paint scheme though!!!!
 

Fievel

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I'm using his paint scheme in my league right now...I run #12 so i had to modify it ;)
 

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MonorailBlack

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That was really cool. I think that is one of my favorite paint schemes ever!!! I am sad that tonight was Fox's last broadcast for this season.....I prefer them to NBC.....I will miss the Crank It up.....by the way, the Nascar Fox cd is great, i have it....

You a big diecast collector?
 

Fievel

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Originally posted by MonorailBlack
That was really cool. I think that is one of my favorite paint schemes ever!!! I am sad that tonight was Fox's last broadcast for this season.....I prefer them to NBC.....I will miss the Crank It up.....by the way, the Nascar Fox cd is great, i have it....

You a big diecast collector?

I've just started out...have a few things, but I just got Jimmie Johnson's Hauler/w car. It's kinda rare, so i have it sitting up on top of my comp desk. I have a bunch of other regular ones that I just get at target when i work.

My dad, however, is a huge die-cast collector...i always have his list here for presents. I got him the Bugs Bunny 1/24 scheme from last season, he has the flame scheme in 1/24, last year's pepsi scheme in 1/24. I'll probably get the new one for his birthday this year.

He also has just about every 1/64 car that he can get his hands on. Sucks that they don't make all the cars. Some seem to never get made for some reason.
 

Fievel

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Originally posted by MonorailBlack
That was really cool. I think that is one of my favorite paint schemes ever!!! I am sad that tonight was Fox's last broadcast for this season.....I prefer them to NBC.....I will miss the Crank It up.....by the way, the Nascar Fox cd is great, i have it....

You a big diecast collector?

Plus now we have to put up with Ned Jarret....NBC is like Nascar for Dummies...Fox at least assumes you have some knowledge of the sport if you are willing to watch cars go in circles for 3 hours :)
 

MonorailBlack

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I am a huge collector.....it is nice to be hooked up at a store like yours.....I like Trget a lot...I just got Jimmie's hauler also..very rare and nice looking....I have so much diecast it is not funny....I am trying to get the Gordon car in the vending machine off Ebay, it is nice......Ebay has good deals....Walmart too...

It is nice, b/c I live about 2 miles from Homestead Miami Speedway- so I live near the action....haulers pass up and past my home for 2 weeks in November....

I agree with you on NBC, they do make it very simplistic....also the people are very square...I like how Hammond, and Waltrip and Burns goof around....like last year when they had a water gun fight in the broadcast room (Hollywood Hotel)
 

Fievel

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Did you see the way Dale Jr was gonna willingly take 2nd tonight? I would never agree with that, even for a teammate. To me that's not a racer.

It's like if i had guys hired to block for me so i could finish better...just not right.
 

MonorailBlack

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Yeah, that is true....his dad would probably get mad with him for that......then he ends up 6th trying to pass Mikey...b/c if you heard on the in car audio...he asked Tony Eury (crew chief) and Tony said, "no way boy, these men in the pits need a win they worked hard"....so he falls back 4 places?! Maybe Dale was just trying to show that hey, you dont like my choices, look at what your strategy did to me? I know he fell out of the draft, but it was crazy that 4 cars passed a DEI car?!!!! I dont know- seemed odd---in any case, I admire the drivers and what they do, its a great and fun sport. In all, it was a great race...love them night races!!!!
 

Fievel

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Originally posted by MonorailBlack
In all, it was a great race...love them night races!!!!

Oh yeah...those are the best ones....They bring out the special paint schemes, and the flashbulbs go off....awesome :)

And yeah...Dale Sr. would have been seriously pi$$ed at Jr for that stunt.

I think dale tried to make a move but nobody went along...then he was just shuffled back....he should have waited a bit longer and forced the draft to follow him.

On the other hand if he does pass and the draft goes with him, Mikey is screwed.

So i guess it was a trade-off.
 

MonorailBlack

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Fans show anger over ending of Pepsi 400


DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Lodged in the safety of the cockpit of his No. 2 Miller Lite Ford, Rusty Wallace circulated the last three laps of Saturday night's Pepsi 400 at Daytona International Speedway shaking his head.

After racing back to a yellow flag with only three laps to go, behind Michael Waltrip, he didn't know what to make of what he was seeing.

"I've never seen anybody be so jubilant for Michael Waltrip winning in my life," Wallace said. "I saw all those Pepsi seat cushions come over and I said, 'What in the world is going on?' The back straightaway was so littered with beer cans and Pepsi things you couldn't have done nothing."

What was going on was a fan insurrection, the likes of which may have never been witnessed in the modern era, launched by an incomprehensible NASCAR policy that caused Friday night's Busch Series Stacker 2/GNC Live Well 250 to be red flagged with four laps to go so it could have a green flag finish while Saturday night's race ended under caution.


If a similar pattern had been followed, the field would have stopped in Turn 2 with three laps to go, would have been given one lap to go before green with two laps to go and would have had a one-lap run to the finish.

The fans would have accepted that. But as it was, hundreds of them -- judging by the litter that included everything from the ubiquitous seat cushions to cameras and pizza boxes that absolutely covered the backstretch -- were far from pleased.

"That was wild," driver Jeremy Mayfield said. "I had some sort of bottle or something bounce right off my hood. "I guess they were mad because no one knows when races are going to be stopped and when they aren't. We don't understand it, either.

"But if they went back green, it was going to be mayhem for the last lap. I guess we got it anyway with the fans throwing all that stuff."

NASCAR has no clear-cut rule on stopping races.

They halted the Daytona 500 here in February to ensure a competitive finish after a multi-car pileup with seven laps to go.

A week later, in almost an identical situation, it reversed its stance at Rockingham and allowed the race to continue to an anticlimactic yellow-flag finish. They stopped the race in Michigan last month when caution came out with six laps to go.



Credit: VPS Autostock

But they didn't do it here, which was consistent with how NASCAR officials have explained how they make the decision.

When a red flag comes out, there has to be enough laps left in the race for the pace car to first pick of the field and go around the track once, then the pits have to be opened on the next lap to give cars an opportunity for service.

That would have left one lap left on Saturday night, which NASCAR said was not enough time for a green-flag finish.

"I'm totally comfortable that we did the right thing tonight," NASCAR spokesman Jim Hunter said.

The fans disagreed.

"They were throwing things because they were upset," Michael Brody of Deltona, Fla., said. "You have to be able to come here and know what to expect. You can't come here and have something different every time."

"All I can say is Michael's victory was tainted, man," an unidentified fan said.

"The race should have finished under green," Don Smith of Deltona -- who said he had not missed a Daytona 500 or Pepsi 400 since 1970 -- said. "It should be the same for every race, finish under the same rules. The last five laps, no matter what, they should stop the cars, clean up the mess and go to green."

"A lot of them didn't understand what was going on," Steve McKenzie of Longwood, Fla., said. "They didn't understand why it would be one way last night and this way tonight. We looked at it as there were three laps to go and they should have ran it under green.

"You never know what's going to happen on that last lap -- anything could have happened to Michael."

McKenzie said it was not the first time he had been puzzled by the outcome of a NASCAR event.

"All I know if that in years past I've seen it at the end like that when it was five laps or less, they caution it and it stops right there," he said. "They should have a consistent policy. There should be something written down. If you get pulled over for DUI -- consistently it's .08. Law enforcement does not let you go after that -- that's consistent.

"I'm not saying NASCAR needs to be like law enforcement, but they do need to run it like an organization that's like any other organization -- consistent, so you know what to expect."

Hunter said the sanctioning body made the decision based on not having enough time to safely restart the event.

Another fan that declined to give his name said he would return to the track, but he might not understand what he had witnessed any better.

"This is the first time I have been to a race, and the race was great," he said. "But at the end it was really anticlimactic and that was a little disappointing."

Apparently, judging by the lack of asphalt visible on the backstretch half an hour after the checkers, that was a popular opinion of an unpopular decision.
 

TURKEY

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Originally posted by MonorailBlack
My heart went out to Dale Jarret in his accident...but I also rolled out of my chair laughing when he walked about a quarter mile back to pit row b/c the ambulance took too long- go DJ.

The medical response teams were terrible last night. Brett Bodine's car was flaming good after that crash and no one came over to even try and put it out. At the same time, DJ didn't have anyone check on him until he was almost back to the pits.
 

MonorailBlack

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Re: Re: Nascar Pepsi 400- 7.06.02

Originally posted by turkey leg boy


The medical response teams were terrible last night. Brett Bodine's car was flaming good after that crash and no one came over to even try and put it out. At the same time, DJ didn't have anyone check on him until he was almost back to the pits.

I agree with you whole heartedly!!! I have seen 20 car pileups with better medical response....And with Bodine's car, you're right...the camera focused on it for minutes before anything happened!!! Crazy!!

As to the fans, that really stinks with all that garbage thrown!!! I can't see cleaning up the track, open pits and restart in 3 laps...I am sure a one lap shootout would have torn up many more cars......I was happy with the finish!
 

TURKEY

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Originally posted by Fossil
Does anyone know if that was Britney Spears who called out "...Start your engines"!!!!!!!!!!?:hammer:

It was Jessica Simpson.

Britney did it last year. I have pictures, but they are from the Jumbo-Tron. My seat was too far toward turn 4 to get any.
 

MonorailBlack

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I have a pic of Britney from last year from a magazine. Britney's dad loves Nascar, so she did this and he got to hang in the pits and ride thpace car....I wish I knew someone who was a superstar.....yeah, this year it was jessica Simpson......

by the way, anybody like those UPS commercials? I think they are great and Dale is a real sport!
 

orlpassholder

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Wow Im so late posting to this thread. I was at the race also. I thought it was fine. I was alittle shocked by the NASCAR mandatory caution call (I take it GoodYear brought a new tire)

The race ending.... Hmmm I agree with NASCAR's call. I have seats on the back stretch right outside of turn 2 I did not throw my cushion out onto the track like so many other fans did which really puts a bad image on the NASCAR fans now.

Glad to see Mike win. Though the talk of it being fixed was all about the track when we where leaving. DEI doesnt cheat they just spend more time working on the restrictor plate setups. If it was fixed they would win every race.

Jr I think just got caught up with trying to win. He still is "young" at the Winston level (only his 3rd year)

Give him time he will learn.
 

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