Mark Dindal and Randy Fullmer leave Disney

clarksfan95

Member
Original Poster
Good riddance? How come? Dindal is a pretty good guy, don't let the article make you think that he spends all his time working at Disney tho'. He has also had stints with Warner Bros. as well.

Dindal was responsable for basically creating a film from scratch with Emperor's New Groove and still having it released on time - meanwhile, the film had already been in production for about two years when they decided that the story really wasn't good....in any way. Everyone that worked that film was forced to work faster and harder than they animators and co. generally do and though I love Emperor's New Groove, the box office shows that it had story problems. It cost $100 million to make and only brought back 89 million...that's generally not a good sign for any movie, but the rest was made up through DVD. That isn't what a company wants tho', they want the DVD's to be icing on the cake...not part of the cake.

Dindal and Fullmer were also pressured heavily by Disney to make Chicken Little a hit. All of that stress was their own, if it flopped they would've been shown the door. Luckily for them, people did like it (I thought it was mediocre) and it was considered a relative hit, nothing near Pixar/Shrek popularity, but it did it's job.

For anyone interested...the best film that Dindal has ever done was for Warner Bros., it's called Cat's Don't Dance. It's an amazing piece of animation (just for the animation) and though it received mixed reviews over the storyline, I love it and the characters have are tops in my book. It's bascially about a cat (Danny) who goes to 1930's-40's Hollywood to become a star....he finds out that humans and not animals are used in star parts....but, even through this revelation (which he doesn't understand) he still continues to try and become a star. It's, if you look at it deeper than face value, is a great film about following your dreams and not giving up on them just because the oppurtunity isn't presenting itself. If you have kids, I guarentee that they will like this movie, I'm 30 years old and I love this movie. When I'm having issues drawing...or getting started, this is the main movie I pop in (the second being Frank and Ollie). Rent it first if you have to and you don't want to take a chance with $15.
 

mickhyperion

Active Member
I say good riddance because I didn't care for Emperor's New Groove and I thought Chicken Little was an absolute piece of trash. Both of these movies have a feel and an attitude about them that does not say Disney to me. If the same movies had been released by Dreamworks or Fox, I might not be as critical of them because that seems like a better fit. I don't think edgy, smartass humor works well in a Disney movie. I don't think it should all be mermaids and fairy tales either, but I expect more sophistication and less sophomoric pandering from Disney.

My criticism of these movies is based primarily on the story, the characters, and the dialogue. As an animator myself, I feel the animation in both movies was adequate but nothing special. In Chicken Little's case, I think they could pushed the facial animation a lot further because, as it was, it was nowhere near the level of the traditional animation that this "first" Disney CG animated feature replaced. Every effort should have been made to wow the audience with how much better CG animation can be, rather than taking an obvious step backwards. In Pixar's Incredibles, the facial animation is amazing and it really makes the characters come alive, bringing a whole new level of believability to human CG characters. The Chicken Little characters' faces were practically wooden which dragged the acting down and gave you no reason to believe or care about the characters.

I haven't seen any of the other movies this duo has made (individually or together), so I certainly am not saying that they are talentless, but I don't think they were a good fit for Disney. I'm glad they'll have the opportunity to work for other studios instead.
 

PencilTest

New Member
I for one am sorry to see them go. I think they really helped fill a contemporary niche in Disney. And I don't think there was any "sophomoric pandering" in Chicken Little or Emperor's New Groove. In fact, I really enjoyed the former and the latter is really one of my favorite movies because it is both irreverent and smart at the same time. They brought about a style of humor that was smarter, edgier, and a bit more self-aware than normal, and they didn't have to resort to fart jokes to sell a laugh. And for what it's worth, from this cartoonist's opinion, I thought the characters in CL were animated very well.

I do hope that there departure from the company was indeed voluntary. I hate to think that they would be pushed out due to the Pixar aqcuisition.
 

clarksfan95

Member
Original Poster
I just heard any interview with both of them and they are in fact leaving on thier own. They had the plans to leave after the Chicken Little DVD was released...the Pixar acquisition just happened to happen right before they announced their departure. A couple of the Disney guys on an animation board I frequent all corroborated (sp?) the story.
 

PencilTest

New Member
clarksfan95 said:
I just heard any interview with both of them and they are in fact leaving on thier own. They had the plans to leave after the Chicken Little DVD was released...the Pixar acquisition just happened to happen right before they announced their departure. A couple of the Disney guys on an animation board I frequent all corroborated (sp?) the story.
Yeah, I read that in the link too. I dunno...just skeptical, I suppose. I'm glad that it really does seem like there are no bad feelings, though. Just out of curiosity, which animation board are you referring too?
 

clarksfan95

Member
Original Poster
AnimationNation.com...several of the members on the board work at Disney now and then there are a few who have worked there previously...and one who worked there a long time ago. It's a sight where people in who work in animation go to BS basically.

Unfortunately, they recently had to turn the site into a paysite to post on the forums, but hey, that happens...it's a small board that sees relatively moderate traffic (I think) and the guy who operates it does other things in animation. It's a nice sight tho and gives a more interesting insight into the world of animation.
 

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