Just watched Mystic Manor and Pirates in SDL and.......

[NickMaio]

So I know I "only" watched POV videos of these rides but - - - - Man do I ever feel scammed now.......

Being a LONG time visitor of WDW really had me thinking why can't WDW's parks have rides of this caliber - - specifically dark rides.
They seemed to be a cool mix of universals rides and WDW style dark rides.

Come on WDW get with it. Bring us the cool stuff. Has anyone been to both parks? What is it like in person? The video footage was unreal.

 

[Horizons '83]

So I know I "only" watched POV videos of these rides but - - - - Man do I ever feel scammed now.......

Being a LONG time visitor of WDW really had me thinking why can't WDW's parks have rides of this caliber - - specifically dark rides.
They seemed to be a cool mix of universals rides and WDW style dark rides.

Come on WDW get with it. Bring us the cool stuff. Has anyone been to both parks? What is it like in person? The video footage was unreal.

Get ready for these responses:

Pirates is a WDW/Disneyland classic and won't be changed to the new tech

Mystic Manor is to similar to Haunted Mansion to be built in the US

 

[JIMINYCR]

The grass always looks greener on the other side.... OH WAIT... IT IS. I also cry when I see the ride through videos that everyone else has... At least FoP came to us.. Oh wait we also got slinky dog & alien twirly thinggy ride.

 

[NickMaio]

The grass always looks greener on the other side.... OH WAIT... IT IS. I also cry when I see the ride through videos that everyone else has... At least FoP came to us.. Oh wait we also got slinky dog & alien twirly thinggy ride.

I am sorry - -- I would not call slinky or the alien thing even a close to those two rides.
This is what I'm talking about though. Why the crummy new additions>?
FOP is just Back to the Future on a motorcycle, ok it breathes Still you never forget you are staying at a giant screen.

Pirates and Mystic are genuine immersive rides with multi platforms and dimensions.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

Some of the greatest Disneyworld attractions have all the same things in common. They involve physical props, practical effects, immersive themeing, and ultimately a good sense of steep spending / years of research. Can't really say the same for Bobby's great IP ideas.

 

[Damon7777]

You do not necessarily need to ride/see first hand those two attractions(or any for that matter) to understand just how immersive and high end they are......videos give enough insight.

Anyone who has experience with Universal and Disney attractions should have some skill at safely extrapolating and/or translating other rides based off of videos.

 

[Stripes]

So I know I "only" watched POV videos of these rides but - - - - Man do I ever feel scammed now.......

Being a LONG time visitor of WDW really had me thinking why can't WDW's parks have rides of this caliber - - specifically dark rides.
They seemed to be a cool mix of universals rides and WDW style dark rides.

Come on WDW get with it. Bring us the cool stuff. Has anyone been to both parks? What is it like in person? The video footage was unreal.

I think you'll be happy next year. Ahem.

(FYI, this is queue)

 

[NickMaio]

Fingers crossed for GE.

 

[NickMaio]

Fingers really crossed

 

[Disstevefan1]

So I know I "only" watched POV videos of these rides but - - - - Man do I ever feel scammed now.......

Being a LONG time visitor of WDW really had me thinking why can't WDW's parks have rides of this caliber - - specifically dark rides.
They seemed to be a cool mix of universals rides and WDW style dark rides.

Come on WDW get with it. Bring us the cool stuff. Has anyone been to both parks? What is it like in person? The video footage was unreal.

Nick, you're right but you forget one thing... It does not matter they do, or dont do, at WDW, people keep coming, they just keep coming....

 

[JIMINYCR]

I am sorry - -- I would not call slinky or the alien thing even a close to those two rides.

I agreed with you... my comment was said with sarcasm.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Having experien

So I know I "only" watched POV videos of these rides but - - - - Man do I ever feel scammed now.......

Being a LONG time visitor of WDW really had me thinking why can't WDW's parks have rides of this caliber - - specifically dark rides.
They seemed to be a cool mix of universals rides and WDW style dark rides.

Come on WDW get with it. Bring us the cool stuff. Has anyone been to both parks? What is it like in person? The video footage was unreal.

I experienced the Shangahi DL Pirates last spring and it was pretty cool, but a totally different ride. I can't say it's better just different. I think Disneyworld can improve on some of the new rides but I am glad they have not gone the way of Universal. I love Uni, but after 2 days there you find yourself in what I call Screen Fatigue. So many of the rides, especially the new ones rely on screens and 3d glasses and it's just not the same. For one riding with your family becomes sort of irrelevant, for better or worse, because you can't point stuff out together sitting in the darkness. They all sort of have the same formula of a chase, escape, or race somewhere. I dont know it gets boring after a bit. And for not sure why but the 3D effectnecer seems quite right with my eyes.

 

[NickMaio]

Nick, you're right but you forget one thing... It does not matter they do, or dont do, at WDW, people keep coming, they just keep coming....

Sadly - - I am one of those
I am just looking for some more pizazz and pop..........I think we have enough toddler friendly rides at WDW.
Come on WDW turn it up to 11 ...... NOW!

 

[NickMaio]

Having experien

I experienced the Shangahi DL Pirates last spring and it was pretty cool, but a totally different ride. I can't say it's better just different. I think Disneyworld can improve on some of the new rides but I am glad they have not gone the way of Universal. I love Uni, but after 2 days there you find yourself in what I call Screen Fatigue. So many of the rides, especially the new ones rely on screens and 3d glasses and it's just not the same. For one riding with your family becomes sort of irrelevant, for better or worse, because you can't point stuff out together sitting in the darkness. They all sort of have the same formula of a chase, escape, or race somewhere. I dont know it gets boring after a bit. And for not sure why but the 3D effect never seems quite right with my eyes.

I am not looking for Uni screen blast -- - - - Just a creative mix of the two - - - dark ride, AA's and screen immersiveness.

The Navi river Journey has screens but next to no AA's - -except at the end and some spinny things on the ceiling. It's rather sad looking to experience.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

This isn't a new phenomenon. I remember riding Pooh's Hunny Hunt in Tokyo in 2002 and just being blown away at what a modern dark ride could be.

Then they opened a Pooh ride in Anaheim which was old school in it's use of simple technology. What a let down.

The disparity between what they're doing overseas vs. in North America has been disappointing for decades.

 

[Maeryk]

This isn't a new phenomenon. I remember riding Pooh's Hunny Hunt in Tokyo in 2002 and just being blown away at what a modern dark ride could be.

Then they opened a Pooh ride in Anaheim which was old school in it's use of simple technology. What a let down.

The disparity between what they're doing overseas vs. in North America has been disappointing for decades.

You will get Rattatouille and Mickey's railway, both the same ride tech as Hunny Hunt.

As to "why won't they build these cutting edge dark rides!"

They are. And the complaining is non-stop and incessant. The new Energy replacement: Cutting edge dark ride. Totally new ride system in fact. People gripe. They want outdated tech and 30 year old animatronics.

We get tron.. people gripe. They want another boat ride full of dancing dolls.

We get Mickey and Minnie's runaway railway (or whatever it is called) and people complain because a horribly dated Energy clone, in which half the effects don't work anymore goes away.

I don't think Pirates or HM can be retrofitted to those newer ride systems. And someone will burn the park down if they scrap either of those rides and replace them with a "knockoff" of another park's ride.

The most we can hope for, realistically, I think, is some new IP or concept (and face it, both HM and Pirates are IP now, just as much as any Pixar character), that is unique to Florida AND embraces the newest ride systems.

At some point, I think Florida became the "we aren't doing anything new and different here, because we have four parks here that are different. So you get clones of other places". That may be starting to come to an end. Time will tell.

 

[MisterPenguin]

MMRR will be comparable to Mystic Manor. Basically the same system and mechanical concept. A fantastic E Ticket.

Ratatouille will be similar, but a half step down, say, an E- Ticket.

And the SW Battle Escape will be similar, but a step up, say, an E+ Ticket.

Though, that leaves DAK without a LPS ride, so, a Mystic Manor type ride, but all about animals, wold work there.


As far as Shanghai's PotC ride, WDW is looking to clone that system somewhere in WDW, but give it a different IP. It's been suggested that it might be an Indy ride for DHS.

And to all the folks who think I'm a Pixie Duster, let me once again say that MK PotC is awful and should be replaced. The AAs are surviving only on nostalgia. And for every good one in that ride, I can show you a ridiculously bad one. Every 'fan' agrees it's the worse iteration of PotC worldwide, and yet, they strangely want to chain themselves to it to save it. If WDW wants to clone the Shanghai PotC mechanics, how about just cloning it exactly and replacing MK's PotC? I know you all are fond of your '93 Beetle and the memories you have, but, when you can get a '18 Cadillac... <sigh>