Just how crazy is the 7 Dwarves line by 9:15?

[CaptainAmerica]

I believe it. I've been checking it also and I'd say that's accurate, maybe 30 minutes after open max. It's crazy!

I'm not saying it's crazy, I'm saying it's literally mathematically impossible. Nobody can have waited 45 minutes if the park has only been open for 15. If someone boards 7DMT at 9:15 and we're saying it was a 45 minute wait, then that means he or she got in line at 8:30, which is impossible.

 

[DfromATX]

Yep- that's correct- we will arrive at rope drop (well before) and be poised to hustle on over to the attraction. We just won't be able to really run a). because I hate the thought of yelling at the kids to move, move, move! their first day there, ever and b) we'll have my in-laws with us who aren't the speediest. I guess we'll do our best and if the line is longer than 20-25 minutes, we'll just ride it another time. If I knew that definitely wasn't a possibility we'd just not even walk there to begin with. That's my dilemma....do we even go check it out if a wait that short isn't possible at that time?

I'd say if you got there at rope drop and went to the ride first, you should be alright. But that wouldn't be for long so don't dawdle! Going first thing after opening (without a FP) might be your only chance or late at night.

When we go in July, I think I might try to do 7DMT FP at 10:00 and try to do all the others in the area first thing, especially Pooh and PP which I refuse to waste fast passes on.

 

[MickeyMomV]

I'm not saying it's crazy, I'm saying it's literally mathematically impossible. Nobody can have waited 45 minutes if the park has only been open for 15. If someone boards 7DMT at 9:15 and we're saying it was a 45 minute wait, then that means he or she got in line at 8:30, which is impossible.

I totally get what your saying about it being mathematical impossible to have somebody in line for 45 minutes 15-20 minutes after park open but that does not mean that there can't/won't be a 45 minute wait. At open the wait time is going to be 5 minutes but if 500 people get in line at rope drop they are not all going to have a 5 minute wait. I have to imagine that based on where the end of the line falls is where they will override the time to. If the line is at point "A" the wait will be 30 minutes, Point "B" will be 45 minutes, Point "C" will be 60 minutes and so on until the red cards are able to catch up and give real time waits. This process does not mean that the wait times are wrong or reported inaccurately on the MDE, they are just based on visual traffic estimates instead of red card scanning.

 

[George]

I'm not saying it's crazy, I'm saying it's literally mathematically impossible. Nobody can have waited 45 minutes if the park has only been open for 15. If someone boards 7DMT at 9:15 and we're saying it was a 45 minute wait, then that means he or she got in line at 8:30, which is impossible.

You are correct that no one could have waited 45 minutes at 9:15. However, it is possible for enough people to be in the queue in front of you that if you arrived at 9:15 you may not be boarding a train until 10:00. Disney will have the wait time inflated right off the bat for many attractions because they know some things are getting to get long lines pretty quickly. This does lead to a "I've just won the lottery feeling" if you show up at a queue early in the morn and you're seated in a ride vehicle after 9 minutes and 38 seconds when the sign clearly said 35 minutes. If the ride I am on has outdoor bits I get a feeling of satisfaction from yelling, "So long suckers!" at all my fellow tourists as I whiz by when this happens.

I should note that on this specific debate I am an agnostic since I have ridden this ride multiple times with my family and we always had a fastpass. I rode it once with the venerable @sshindel and we waited in the queue proper with no fastpass, but it certainly wasn't 15 minutes after opening. More of a late afternoon type deal and we dorked around with all the interactive stuff in the queue.

 

[Tuvalu]

My 2 cents:

The standby wait time likely factors in the fastpasses which have been issued. Since the first fastpass time begins at 9 (which we have had before) there will be guests cycling into the ride from the fastpass side at opening.

Having had pre-opening breakfast ADRs at BOG, we have seen 7DMT operating as early as 8:45 a.m. So some guests who had breakfast ADRs will already be in line before day guests arrive.

That said, we got in line one morning last summer at 9:20 (wait posted at 45 minutes) and were on the coaster 25 minutes later.

 

[Sonconato]

Maybe this will help give you some sense of what you'll face:



It doesn't seem too bad but there will also be a lot of people that will be thinking the same way. Good Luck!

 

[sshindel]

I rode it once with the venerable @sshindel and we waited in the queue proper with no fastpass, but it certainly wasn't 15 minutes after opening. More of a late afternoon type deal and we dorked around with all the interactive stuff in the queue.

I prefer thinking that we vigorously user tested the interactive queue technology.

 

[Disney4family]

Well, actually, when we were able to walk to the ride at 8:45 from the hub with the CMs and everyone on the planet last August, we were on the ride by 9 and off by 9:15 or so - and there was a 45 minute wait at that time. That's the truth (for that time of the year) and what we experienced for a 9:00 am park opening.

 

[WondersOfLife]

7 dwarves mine train's popularity as a coaster is on an equivalent scale of Peter Pan's Flight's popularity as a dark ride, to give you an idea.............It doesn't add up, nobody knows why, it just IS.

 

[DfromATX]

Well, it's 9:19 now and there's already a 60 minute wait.

 

[DfromATX]

Maybe this will help give you some sense of what you'll face:



It doesn't seem too bad but there will also be a lot of people that will be thinking the same way. Good Luck!

I see they are "guiding" them and there's no stampede. Well, that guy in the blue shirt is trying to get ahead, but for the most part...

 

[DfromATX]

I guess 7DMT left Under the Sea in the dust! I can remember when that one was "all the talk."

 

[FigmentPigments]

I don't know if this helps, but when my Mom and I got there at rope drop and walked back there at a slow-ish pace, we had an hour wait. I timed it because I thought there was no way it was already an hour wait when the park had just opened. It was an hour almost to the minute.

 

[PinnySmart]

I can't score a FP to 7 Dwarves the morning of our first day at MK, but am hoping for that to be our first ride. I don't want everyone to have to run like mad to get there, so let's say we roll up at 9:15 or 9:20. Obviously lines vary by day, but on a Monday "moderate" crowd level day next month (4/18),
how long do you think the wait will be by that time?

We do have a FP for it another day at MK, but the grandparents won't be with us then so ideally we'd all ride together first thing. Just curious what everyone's thoughts are! Thanks

You are going to have to just play some things by ear. I know a strong plan is a must do but there are just too may factors at play here to give you an answer. It could be 15 minutes or it could even be up to an hour. Don't worry about it. Just slow down and enjoy your trip. Remember that this is a vacation.

 

[JChoma]

Thanks everyone. Appreciate all of the tips! We'll play it by ear based on the wait time. If we miss it on our first day, no worries.

 

[danyoung56]

I gotta go with those who are saying that the line builds early. I've been there first thing a few times now. I've been able to ride right at opening with a short wait, but by the time I got off just a few minutes later the line has been HUGE. This time of morning the time display is not set by the little red cards - it's set by CMs who know from experience how long the wait is based on how long the line is. 15 minutes after park opening I've seen the line go way back into the Dumbo area, way longer than I'm willing to wait. This next visit I'm going with the dine early plan, with an ADR at BOG for 8am and rope drop at 9am. Hopefully I'll be able to get a couple rides in before the hoards arrive.

 

[Clamman73]

As long as you stay up by one of the tunnels at rope drop, stay towards the front with the walk down Main Street, and then try to keep pace with people after you go to the right of the castle and up to the stand-by line entrance, you'll be walking through the whole queue and almost right onto the ride.