It's a CoP Secret!

General Grizz

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The Carousel of Progress was the only attraction that Walt Disney told his imagineers to keep open as long as his parks existed.


Furthermore, the CoP has had more performances than any other stage show in the history of American theater - and also more views by guests. :)
 

One Lil Spark

EPCOT Center Defender
Originally posted by grizzlyhall
The Carousel of Progress was the only attraction that Walt Disney told his imagineers to keep open as long as his parks existed.


Furthermore, the CoP has had more performances than any other stage show in the history of American theater - and also more views by guests. :)
That is a great factoid to wake up to. :D

"Now is the time..."
 

swhite

New Member
I have seen COP before but my fiance who was a 1st timer last year missed out due to it being down it was in Nov do you think it will be open in early Dec. this year I hope so that's when we will be going back
 

General Grizz

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The Walt Disney thing comes from a Cast Member. It was later confirmed by Dave Smith, head of the Walt Disney Archives.

You can hear the second part of the secret in the Carousel of Progress preshow and main show. :)
 

Don L Duck

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Originally posted by grizzlyhall
The Carousel of Progress was the only attraction that Walt Disney told his imagineers to keep open as long as his parks existed.


Furthermore, the CoP has had more performances than any other stage show in the history of American theater - and also more views by guests. :)
Grizz is correct in fact the first showing was at the Worlds Fair in the 60's and Walt sung the song.
That ride is a living tribute and Icon to Walts true genious.
I hope it never goes away.:cool:
 

General Grizz

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Look forward to a nice article about COP involving some rare clips of Walt Disney talking about it - and some pretty interesting photos! You'll see when it comes out in my signature (below). :)
 

kevlightyear

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by foxfire
I'm sure you all know this site, but for those who don't...

http://www.carouselofprogress.com/main.htm

I finally got around to downloading their tribute video. . .wow! I highly recommend it.

Here's a little secret I noticed--The World's Fair and Disneyland versions of the show both had guests traveling in a clockwise fashion, whereas in Disney World, as we all know, it travels in a counter clockwise direction. Interesting. . .
 

free9

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I hope COP is open when we go back in aug. ... we have been to WDW 5 times since 10/01...and it was open only once(easter o2) ....my son still sings the song..."It`s a great big beautiful tomorrow".......does anyone know if it will be open aug16-19????????????????????//


:sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy:
 

alee4eva

Member
That tribute really was quite well done.. I couldnt remember the old "now is the time" theme song cause i was too little, glad I got to see it. Though I must say I much prefer "great big beautiful tomorrow." Everyone has to DL it. :-D It's worth it, but make sure you have 40 minutes of free time because it's lengthy. Hehe perfect to fill in time on my day off from school.

Does anyone have a general schedule of when CoP is open?? I'll try to look one up.... I want to know if it will be open myself when I move down for college.....
 

General Grizz

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Here are the times where the CoP should be open:

JANUARY - If open, the 1st through the 6th is probable
FEBRUARY - President's Day Weekend
MARCH - Probably not
APRIL - Easter Week; possible on Grad Nite
MAY - Possible on a Grad Nite
JUNE - Probably mid-June through the end of the month.
JULY - Probably the entire month; if not, Fourth of July Weekend
AUGUST - Probably the first two or three weeks (if open all of July)
SEPTEMBER - Probably not.
OCTOBER - Probably not.
NOVEMBER - Thanksgiving week/weekend.
DECEMBER - Probably the last two weeks of the month.

It's such a pity...it wasn't even open on Walt Disney's birthday.
:(
 

alee4eva

Member
It's such a pity...it wasn't even open on Walt Disney's birthday.

Yeah that's hardly open at all..... :-/ I hate to be all "save all the classic attractions" because that's not me, but this is one i never want to see taken down. I feel like theyre easing us into the idea of it being gone.
 

General Grizz

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When it is open, it's usually jam packed...and the guests often sing along and clap at the end. It's very ensuring.

Personally, before 9-11, I never saw the COP less than 2/3 full. In fact, I never got a decent filming of the attractions then because of this fact! It was closed right after the terrorist attacks because attendance had dropped. But what we're not seeing is...the whole park was empty! :lol:

They have not tested the show during another time. Nor did they advertise it *one bit* as a must-see landmark attraction during Walt Disney's 100th. But the Magic Kingdom's "Magic Carpets of Aladdin" or "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire - Play it!" was. That's sickening, based on the fact that it was one of the few the attractions Walt held most dear to his heart. In fact, it was one of the last he personally supervised...and, of course, the only attraction he asked his Imagineers to keep. That says something big.

If they marked it on the map with a big star on the map, perhaps advertised it on TV, put banners infront of it with area music and whatnot, I could ensure you that the CoP could have been much more open than it was during the celebration. In fact, the lines for CoP extended down the ramps IN THE RAIN according to several guest (and Cast Member!) visits - there was no covering. That also says something.

The Animatronics and sets are often refurbished - that's excellent. The condition of the attraction is still wonderful. Sure, you may hear clicking. But you hear the same on "It's a Small World." Are we going to shut it down because of that? No...or at least we shouldn't. Instead, we should think of ways to fix the motors of the attraction...perhaps move it to EPCOT where it truly belongs (or belonged if Project Gemini gets its way).

If they could operate it for one hour each day...and put operating hours outside the attraction...perhaps still add banners and balloons or what not (because frankly, the ride is hidden in the back of Tomorrowland and, frankly, "no one" knows what it is) - and it could be advertised in the map - that could start operation. People with seasonal passes (meaning, they don't
get in during the peak times (WHEN COP IS OPEN!) ) have no chance to visit it. Nor are we given notice of when it is open or closed until (according to Guest Relations) the day we enter the park. They obviously don't want to save it.

And why? The same reason 1000s of other operations occur in the Walt Disney Company - ranging from the hidden distribution of adult entertainment films and other cutbacks which truly cut back on the magic while prices are still raised: Money. It takes a lot to run the Carousel of Progress. But Disney should take its own advice: nothing's impossible. People are paid to imagine things like this...:p

What can we do? Write. Let Disney know what you want. We cannot back down. If you're in the park any day, express your concern. IT HELPS. In fact, Tomorrowland workers TALLY the number of questions they get about the CoP...so let the Cast Members know how you feel! You want the Carousel of Progress...it's sitting right there...it's closed, and you spend MORE at the parks now that the ticket prices are rising. Go to City Hall...they will let the managers know. Because we LOVE the COP...

...and so does Walt.
 

RickEff

Active Member
Originally posted by foxfire
I'm sure Eisner & crew will find some way to screw things up...

Given what Eisner & crew has done for Disney, I'm not sure that remark is fair.

Overall, I think Disney is a much better company - and WDW is a much better place since Eisner took over in the early 80s. I don't want to get into another good Eisner / evil Eisner debate - I just didn't want to leave the comment unanswered.:)

Rick
 

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