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Is Paint the Night is lacking badly.

Californian Elitist

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You can't just dismiss opinions like that. I admit that I've never seen PtN live (heck I've not been to DLR since 2009), but I feel watching the video is enough to make an initial opinion, not a final opinion. Maybe my opinion will change next time I'm at Disneyland, maybe it won't. All I'm saying is that you can't just invalidate opinions on a whim especially when they have arguments behind them.

Yes, I can. I, personally, will not take into account opinions from people when they have no first-hand experience, specifically final opinions.

I agree initial opinions are different from final ones, but one said anything about having initial opinions at the start of the thread. The OP, including a few others are the beginning of this thread, were speaking about the parade as if they had seen it with their own eyes. Even the title of this thread suggests that.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Sure they can. Let's say you showed me a picture of your favorite dish at your favorite restaurant on earth. Then after looking at the picture I tell you that it doesn't look very appetizing and therefore it must not be all that appetizing. What would be the first words out of your mouth? I'm not a betting man, but if I were I'd bet any sum of money you would say I'd need to smell it and taste it before my opinion was valid. Same thing with this parade. By watching it online you're not getting the full experience. Just as I wouldn't be smelling or tasting the dish you showed me a picture of, you wouldn't be getting the effect of 360* views, the effect of the performer's interactions, or the ability to rotate your head and be surrounded by (and fully immersed in) the entirety of the experience.

This is like many things in life: seeing the Grand Canyon, watching a rocket launch, going to a sporting event, heck even going to your kid's recital....all of it is best experienced in person because then you get the full effect of actually being there.
A light parade is not food, you are not supposed to smell or taste it, you hear and see it. Food is a fallacious and completely inaccurate strawman analogy.

The other analogies are better, though still not comparable. Grand Canyon in particular has a sense of scale that can't be even remotely replicated via video. Something similar can be said about rocket launches.

Again I respect the need to see something in person to fully appreciate it, but the issues expressed in this thread again are not going to disappear or correct themselves by seeing them in person. People who don't like the music or the float designs aren't going to suddenly change their opinion about those specific aspects. I posted comparison images earlier to explain my issues with the float design and detailed what was wrong with Paint the Night.
 

Miss Heinous

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A light parade is not food, you are not supposed to smell or taste it, you hear and see it. Food is a fallacious and completely inaccurate strawman analogy.

The other analogies are better, though still not comparable. Grand Canyon in particular has a sense of scale that can't be even remotely replicated via video. Something similar can be said about rocket launches.

Again I respect the need to see something in person to fully appreciate it, but the issues expressed in this thread again are not going to disappear or correct themselves by seeing them in person. People who don't like the music or the float designs aren't going to suddenly change their opinion about those specific aspects. I posted comparison images earlier to explain my issues with the float design and detailed what was wrong with Paint the Night.
But the fact that a lot of the "critics" are saying that a rust bucket that is the definition of bad show is better is completely laughable. A lot of the complaints coming from people on here (who again have not seen it in person) sound like nit-picks from people who are again jealous that Disneyland got a better addition than WDW did. It happens all the time on here, DLR gets a big addition and almost immediately fanboys start claiming it's crappy because they don't have it plain and simple.
 
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ShoalFox

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In the Parks
Yes
But the fact that a lot of the "critics" are saying that a rust bucket that is the definition of bad show is better is completely laughable. A lot of the complaints coming from people on here (who again have not seen it in person) sound like nit-picks from people who are again jealous that Disneyland got a better addition than WDW did. It happens all the time on here, DLR gets a big addition and almost immediately fanboys start claiming it's crappy because they don't have it plain and simple.
I'm not jealous at all that Disneyland got a sub-par parade. The only thing I really want at WDW that DLR has is the Hatbox Ghost.
 

the-reason14

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But the fact that a lot of the "critics" are saying that a rust bucket that is the definition of bad show is better is completely laughable. A lot of the complaints coming from people on here (who again have not seen it in person) sound like nit-picks from people who are again jealous that Disneyland got a better addition than WDW did. It happens all the time on here, DLR gets a big addition and almost immediately fanboys start claiming it's crappy because they don't have it plain and simple.

This! But I think I might have been one of them once upon a time. What was the general consensus with Cars land? I'm pretty sure there were a few that ripped it to shreds and found fault in it. The same ones that go to the parks with their lists writing down all the chip paint, broken AAs and burnt out light bulbs, all the while paying a fortune to get in.
 

Brad Bishop

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So NONE OF YOU have seen this parade in person? Hhmm...

I've seen Paint the Night in person just recently. I REALLY liked it. MSEP was my favorite for the longest time and, yes, part of that was due to nostalgia. I was never much of a fan of Spectromagic. I know that there are many here to really like it but, to me, and again part of this is my nostalgia with MSEP, it seemed painfully repetitive like there was some meeting to masterfully craft perfect theme park parade music (too perfect - too repetitive).

All that being said, if they got rid of MSEP at MK and replaced it with PtN, I'd be pretty pleased. I think it's a worthy successor to MSEP.

My only criticism of it: The audio needs to be edited better. It would just reach the end and stop... Then there'd be a brief pause.. Then it'd start from the beginning again. It needs to be a constant loop like every other parade.
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
But the fact that a lot of the "critics" are saying that a rust bucket that is the definition of bad show is better is completely laughable. A lot of the complaints coming from people on here (who again have not seen it in person) sound like nit-picks from people who are again jealous that Disneyland got a better addition than WDW did. It happens all the time on here, DLR gets a big addition and almost immediately fanboys start claiming it's crappy because they don't have it plain and simple.
Well see about that for WDW's 50th anniversary plans in a couple years from now.
 

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