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Is Paint the Night is lacking badly.

THEMEPARKPIONEER

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Original Poster
I finally sat thru a fell video of Paint the night and although its growing on me I feel like its still lacking. If the magic Kingdom were to get the same identical parade it would almost be a cut back if they went for it compared to what they have now. There not that many units. Theres only one intro unit, 1 unit for each story, only 6 7 classic characters within the entire parade, 3 whirly and one single unit for the finale. I can see if do to the new technology many they just want to put out a few just to get the hang of the new technology and how these units work out but besides that there really isn't much. compared to the past parades the length of the parade and amour of units is disappointing.
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
The only difference between the Hong Kong version of Paint The Night is that it has a show stop and no Frozen float unlike Disneyland's version. I guess Paint The Night was trying to mimic Dreamlights where the parade would have a few floats dedicated to only film or story but the finale contained a ton more characters from the past that mostly didn't get there own float. Anyway I always felt Paint The Night gave a little to much attention to Pixar since I remember hearing the reason why Pixar got the most attention was to appeal to Hong Kong's guests and the parade didn't contain many characters from the past and makes Fantillusion (Which was seen at Tokyo Disney Resort and Disneyland Paris) look longer which I thought was the shortest nighttime parade. And Fantillusion had more floats when it was shown at Tokyo Disneyland in the mid 90's.

Ever since Spectromagic ended in 2010, I always felt a little worried and nervous to see what Disney's plans for Walt Disney World's 50th Anniversary. Because I always find Spectromagic to fit very well with Walt Disney World. Especially since Jiminy Cricket hosts both the parade and Wishes. Spectromagic and Dreamlights are currently one of the best looking electrical parades ever seen at any Disney Theme Park. I enjoy Paint The Night, but I really hope Disney comes up with something extra special for it's 50th Anniversary and hopefully a brand new and original nighttime parade exclusive to WDW.
 

Tom

Beta Return
I finally sat thru a fell video of Paint the night and although its growing on me I feel like its still lacking. If the magic Kingdom were to get the same identical parade it would almost be a cut back if they went for it compared to what they have now. There not that many units. Theres only one intro unit, 1 unit for each story, only 6 7 classic characters within the entire parade, 3 whirly and one single unit for the finale. I can see if do to the new technology many they just want to put out a few just to get the hang of the new technology and how these units work out but besides that there really isn't much. compared to the past parades the length of the parade and amour of units is disappointing.

Our opinions vary greatly on Paint the Night. It's the only parade that has kept my attention from start to finish, without my mind wandering or wanting to turn it off (have only seen it on YouTube so far).
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
It's not that good of a parade anyway. The music sounds very spliced together and the character selection is questionable at best. The technology is great, but the parade isn't.
I do enjoy the music heard in the Monster Inc and Toy Story Section. But I do agree, the character selection is questionable but it makes more sense since it fits better at Hong Kong Disneyland.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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I'm not a fan of Paint the Night. The float design is hit or miss and not a fan of the music either. Also feels shorted and fewer floats than other older Disney light parades. And while the lighting itself may be impressive on a technical level, I think it was poorly executed on an artistic level in a lot of ways. At least one or two floats remind me more of those tacky LED billboards you see everywhere now (Monsters Inc), rather than a Disney light parade... For an example of modern lighting tech being implemented into better float design, Tokyo Disneyland's Dreamlights parade is a good one. Which incidentally was an example of the PROPER way to update the Main Street Electrical Parade, Dreamlights is hands down the best parade in any Disney park at the moment and blows PtN away. Many of the floats have been continually plussed (and new ones added) over the years, recently several received upgrades and a new Tangled float was added using modern lighting tech.

That being said, there are some good things about the parade. I really love a lot of the costumes the lighting used on them. The Little Mermaid float is pretty, and the Beauty and the Beast one is nice as well. The Frozen float is probably the best one in the parade, it's excellent IMO. But the rest of the floats are meh to bad for me. An example of the problems I have with the designs vs pretty lighting can be found in Mickey's final float. Cool lighting technology with an interesting disco/whirly prop, but the rest of the float is just very bland compared to Mickey's floats from Fantillusion or Spectromagic.

This lack of artistic design can even be seen on something so basic as the balls ridden by characters. This is something you could even directly compare to Spectromagic as both parades used these balls. Paint the Night uses a very generic square grid pattern for the lights on these balls, backed by a completely black background. Spectromagic's variants of these balls used lights strung to create elegant curvy diamond shapes. On top of that, the empty diamond spaces between the lights were textured for additional detail, some had mirrored surfaces which reflected the patterns of light. And some even had extra lights inside for additional sparkle effects. The lighbulb tech was older obviously, but the designs of the units themselves and the patterns of the lights was infinitely better executed artistically.

I always wish Spectromagic and Fantillusion had received the same love that Dreamlights has. Those float designs for both parades would have been amazing if the lighting had been upgraded the same way Tokyo has continually plussed its parade.
 

THEMEPARKPIONEER

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Original Poster
I hope there not passing this parade off as the finished product. I'm thinking there taking baby steps just to see how this parade holds up. I also don't think that music is going to last to long. Just remember how the Electrical Parade started... It took years to get it right. I just hope when Disney World gets theirs that it's either like dream lights or more like Spectromagic. I'm thinking they will stick with the orchestrated music. This is the first run of the electrical parade as well as the same phase Paint the Night is in right now.
 
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MerlinTheGoat

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So NONE OF YOU have seen this parade in person? Hhmm...
That would matter to some extent, but it wouldn't really improve any of the issues mentioned in this thread. Seeing it in person would improve the lighting (which everyone already admits is a positive anyways). But what about the music, characters choices, float designs, length and float quantity among any other issues mentioned? I've never seen Fantillusion or Dreamlights in person either, but i am in love with the music and most of the floats used (they're also much longer with more content as well).

This isn't some old attraction closed 20+ years ago when archaic cameras couldn't capture low light detail properly. PtN characters and underlying float designs, along with music are all easy to see/hear even in videos.
 

Californian Elitist

Well-Known Member
That would matter to some extent, but it wouldn't really improve any of the issues mentioned in this thread. Seeing it in person would improve the lighting (which everyone already admits is a positive anyways). But what about the music, characters choices, float designs, length and float quantity among any other issues mentioned? I've never seen Fantillusion or Dreamlights in person either, but i am in love with the music and most of the floats used (they're also much longer with more content as well).

This isn't some old attraction closed 20+ years ago when archaic cameras couldn't capture low light detail properly. PtN characters and underlying float designs, along with music are all easy to see/hear even in videos.

Music is one thing, but opinions on the floats are moot if one hasn't seen the parade in person, in my opinion. The OP has never seen the parade, but has a list of issues they have with it.

It's completely unfair to judge an attraction if one has never seen it in person. Videos only do so much.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Life should not be experienced through YouTube. Or more importantly, life opinions should not be formed via YouTube.

I've seen Tokyo's Dreamlights parade several times in person, always with a perfect front row seat. You know what I thought of Dreamlights? I thought it was a little long and kind of boring; there were way too many unknown or very minor characters on Non-Disney generic floats that were only there because they had to fill a 30 minute parade.

When Roger Rabbit appears on a random Sunshine Balloon float with Lilo, you know you are running out of filler material. :eek:
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As for Paint The Night, I've not seen the shortened version in Hong Kong, but I have seen the longer version in Anaheim several times in the last six months. While it's not my most favorite parade ever (buy me a drink and I'll tell you my surprising first choice), it's certainly a dramatic improvement over the tired old Main Street Electrical Parade, even after the Electrical Parade got its LED makeover and upgrades for DCA in 2009.

Paint The Night is fresh and visually stunning, and very clearly from the 21st century and very clearly aimed at 21st century audiences. The proof of its success is that Disneyland Resort runs five parades per day on two parade routes a 5 minute walk from each other: two Soundsational Parades, one Pixar Play Parade, and two Paint The Nights, and both showings of Paint The Night are PACKED with cheering crowds. Paint The Night in Anaheim is a hit.

Don't view life on YouTube, go to Disneyland and see it for yourself! WDW's Magic Kingdom would benefit greatly from their own version of Paint The Night.
 

the-reason14

Well-Known Member
So NONE OF YOU have seen this parade in person? Hhmm...

This!!! Paint the night is my new favorite parade. I will argue that if Spectro had returned with improvements then swapping Ptn for it could possibly be a downgrade, but to say that Ptn is a step down from what Disney World's MK offers now is laughably delusional. MSEP has ran it's course, and the fact that Disneyland bothered to get a new parade while MK still has it's old parade that it got as a leftover from DL is just sad. With that said I do hope that Disney World gets it's own unique parade one day that fits the resort. Ptn fits Disneyland because it's lively and modern.
 
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Travel Junkie

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PTN is a nice fun parade and much better in person than what is seen on videos. In terms of technology if MSEP is standard definition, PTN is crystal clear HD.

On an artistic or design level it is not near the level of MSEP or Dreamlights, but it's not trying to be. Its aims are much simpler than those other parades. It's a fun high energy parade and executes it well. For example the music for PTN works, but wouldn't work in MSEP and vice-versa. PTN is pure fun, much like a summer popcorn movie. Little thinking about it's artistic value necessary.

Dreamlights is in my book the best nighttime parade Disney has ever produced by a long shot. It's stunning in person and from a design perspective is amazing. They also get it right by continually updating it. They started off with a great parade from an artistic and design standpoint. Then as technology improves they update the floats from time to time. They don't update them all at once. Over the course of several years they replace 1 or 2 at a time. This way they can continue to keep it relevant and also advertise the new floats to the audience of mostly locals in Tokyo. I wish that is what they did with MSEP instead of letting it slowly fall apart whose value is almost exclusively nostalgia.

I have seen MSEP, PTN, and Dreamlights in person.
 

THEMEPARKPIONEER

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Original Poster
Even if paint the night is shorter there are still really big gaps Between each unit. They can easily pull of anspectromagic and keep the show flowing like paint the night.
 

180º

Well-Known Member
Music is one thing, but opinions on the floats are moot if one hasn't seen the parade in person, in my opinion. The OP has never seen the parade, but has a list of issues they have with it.

It's completely unfair to judge an attraction if one has never seen it in person. Videos only do so much.
So NONE OF YOU have seen this parade in person? Hhmm...
I agree that you'd have to see it in person to form a complete opinion. That said, I have seen it in person and it does nothing for me. I've also seen MSEP and Spectro in person, and I consider both to be superior in every way save for the technology. I will admit Mickey's vortex at the end of Paint is mesmerizing.
 

BringMeTheHoriz

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Paint the night has Pixar in it because Disney is appealing to a newer generation. The classic characters are already throughout the park. Disney World gets a lot of flack on here for not updating with the times, but here are people chastising Disneyland for using more recent characters.

The parade is fantastic. I saw it in person and haven't watched it on YouTube. Why? Because like others have said, life cannot be lived through a television screen. I have my memories of seeing this parade once and being completely in awe by everything about it. I'm 25 years old and I'm being honest in saying that Disney hasn't made me as happy as I was watching that parade in a long while. The music is refreshing and fresh, the characters are the perfect mix of new and old, and the lights shine brighter than what WDW is rolling out on a daily basis.

You need to stand on Main Street in REAL LIFE to fully get this one
 

the-reason14

Well-Known Member
Paint the night has Pixar in it because Disney is appealing to a newer generation. The classic characters are already throughout the park. Disney World gets a lot of flack on here for not updating with the times, but here are people chastising Disneyland for using more recent characters.

The parade is fantastic. I saw it in person and haven't watched it on YouTube. Why? Because like others have said, life cannot be lived through a television screen. I have my memories of seeing this parade once and being completely in awe by everything about it. I'm 25 years old and I'm being honest in saying that Disney hasn't made me as happy as I was watching that parade in a long while. The music is refreshing and fresh, the characters are the perfect mix of new and old, and the lights shine brighter than what WDW is rolling out on a daily basis.

You need to stand on Main Street in REAL LIFE to fully get this one

Amen!! I'm so glad I didn't spoil it for myself by watching videos on youtube before I actually got to see it. The 60th had just kicked off so I think that's partially why. The only spoilers I saw was the parade going by on nights I didn't watch it when moving from land to land. But I'm so glad I took the time out to actually see it and the fireworks. Simply amazing.
 

Disneysea05

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Dreamlights is definitely my favorite of the bunch. But there is no question in my mind that paint the night is superior to the 2009 version of the Electrical Parade that Disneyland shipped to Florida.

I only saw Fantallusion in its watered down form in Disneyland Paris. It was enjoyable. Unfortunately, I was never able to see the original full version in Tokyo.
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
I'm not a fan of Paint the Night. The float design is hit or miss and not a fan of the music either. Also feels shorted and fewer floats than other older Disney light parades. And while the lighting itself may be impressive on a technical level, I think it was poorly executed on an artistic level in a lot of ways. At least one or two floats remind me more of those tacky LED billboards you see everywhere now (Monsters Inc), rather than a Disney light parade... For an example of modern lighting tech being implemented into better float design, Tokyo Disneyland's Dreamlights parade is a good one. Which incidentally was an example of the PROPER way to update the Main Street Electrical Parade, Dreamlights is hands down the best parade in any Disney park at the moment and blows PtN away. Many of the floats have been continually plussed (and new ones added) over the years, recently several received upgrades and a new Tangled float was added using modern lighting tech.

That being said, there are some good things about the parade. I really love a lot of the costumes the lighting used on them. The Little Mermaid float is pretty, and the Beauty and the Beast one is nice as well. The Frozen float is probably the best one in the parade, it's excellent IMO. But the rest of the floats are meh to bad for me. An example of the problems I have with the designs vs pretty lighting can be found in Mickey's final float. Cool lighting technology with an interesting disco/whirly prop, but the rest of the float is just very bland compared to Mickey's floats from Fantillusion or Spectromagic.

This lack of artistic design can even be seen on something so basic as the balls ridden by characters. This is something you could even directly compare to Spectromagic as both parades used these balls. Paint the Night uses a very generic square grid pattern for the lights on these balls, backed by a completely black background. Spectromagic's variants of these balls used lights strung to create elegant curvy diamond shapes. On top of that, the empty diamond spaces between the lights were textured for additional detail, some had mirrored surfaces which reflected the patterns of light. And some even had extra lights inside for additional sparkle effects. The lighbulb tech was older obviously, but the designs of the units themselves and the patterns of the lights was infinitely better executed artistically.

I always wish Spectromagic and Fantillusion had received the same love that Dreamlights has. Those float designs for both parades would have been amazing if the lighting had been upgraded the same way Tokyo has continually plussed its parade.
Don't forget the new Aladdin floats. The Genie float even changes colors remembering various Disney characters for crying out loud!
 

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