Is anyone else getting tired of Disney Storytelling Speil

[THEMEPARKPIONEER]

I really hate Disneys current form with a passion. Storytelling residential development to disneys famous storytelling at Epcot to Spaceship Earth being about Storytelling. Chapel throws this phrase around way to much, you have fantasyland for a reason pal. This guy looks exactly like what he sounds like.

 

[mergatroid]

Doesn't bother me as I have no intention to be part of it. Wouldn't even waste my time listening unless I wanted to move there, easy solution if it's going to potentially annoy.

 

[Prince-1]

Sounds like some people get triggered WAY to much on here but to answer the OP's question....not at all.

 

[Heppenheimer]

If you compare the way Walt and even Eisner would enthusiastically tout the latest Disney ventures, yes, it comes across as completely hollow corporate-speak. I'm just waiting for Chapek to start talking about the Metaverse in the same bland, empty platitudes... oh, wait...

Walt and Eisner could at least generate your enthusiasm, even if the end result didn't hit the mark 100% of the time. With Chapek, you're almost bracing yourself to figure out the next way he's trying to gaslight you into paying more while delivering less.

 

[Tha Realest]

I really hate Disneys current form with a passion. Storytelling residential development to disneys famous storytelling at Epcot to Spaceship Earth being about Storytelling. Chapel throws this phrase around way to much, you have fantasyland for a reason pal. This guy looks exactly like what he sounds like.

It’s one less use of “magic,” “wonder,” “imagination,” “wish,” and “immersive,” so I guess it’s an improvement?

But to your point, yes, Disney does seem to be enamored with its own storytelling ability. Especially when those like @TP2000 point out examples that read like they’re the first draft from an Iowa Writer’s Workshop speed drill where the creators didn’t have access to the Internet to do basic fact checking.

 

[HauntedPirate]

If they had the first idea of what the word meant anymore, it wouldn’t be quite so bad. But their use/overuse of the word as a nothing more than a brand leveraging tool is aggravating, to put it nicely. This also applies:

 

[Texas84]

no

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

How it was envisioned:

Upon Execution:

 

[THEMEPARKPIONEER]

If you compare the way Walt and even Eisner would enthusiastically tout the latest Disney ventures, yes, it comes across as completely hollow corporate-speak. I'm just waiting for Chapek to start talking about the Metaverse in the same bland, empty platitudes... oh, wait...

Walt and Eisner could at least generate your enthusiasm, even if the end result didn't hit the mark 100% of the time. With Chapek, you're almost bracing yourself to figure out the next way he's trying to gaslight you into paying more while delivering less.

Yeah they have fancy projector systems is pretty much what he’s saying

 

[JusticeDisney]

No.

 

[ChrisFL]

The ironic part is that story was often part of classic Disney attractions, but it was background atmosphere...it wasn't full-blown here's the story (See Haunted Mansion, Pirates, etc.)

I recall this was a topic brought up on the old reimagineering blog that went into better detailt ahn I can explain here.

 

[DfromATX]

I think I know what you're saying. While hate is a pretty strong word, I can remember watching a video with the imagineers (or whoever) talking about the new kite show in that "storytelling" way and it gave me a chuckle. They do tend to be very proud and, at times, overly enthusiastic about whatever they're trying to push out, even if whatever it is is lame.

 

[Dear Prudence]

I really hate Disneys current form with a passion. Storytelling residential development to disneys famous storytelling at Epcot to Spaceship Earth being about Storytelling. Chapel throws this phrase around way to much, you have fantasyland for a reason pal. This guy looks exactly like what he sounds like.

It's nauseating. It's not just you.

 

[Lilofan]

I think I know what you're saying. While hate is a pretty strong word, I can remember watching a video with the imagineers (or whoever) talking about the new kite show in that "storytelling" way and it gave me a chuckle. They do tend to be very proud and, at times, overly enthusiastic about whatever they're trying to push out, even if whatever it is is lame.

I've enjoyed storytelling especially when going through the pre shows before each attraction. But never fail, when one exits the ride or show, there is a waiting merchandise shop waiting to take your money.

 

[Richie248]

It's the new buzz word for sure and seems to be a huge part of Chapek's narrative.

 

[Goofyernmost]

The only story being told is how gullible and willing to be scammed people can be. Sad story indeed. But, for those that can afford it, enjoy! For the rest of us, we will find new adventures!

 

[seascape]

The only story being told is how gullible and willing to be scammed people can be. Sad story indeed. But, for those that can afford it, enjoy! For the rest of us, we will find new adventures!

Okay, let me get this right. Disney story telling is getting horrible and you don't like it However, your complaint is that it costs too much and so you and others can't afford it. Does that mean that if the price were significantly lower you would go and enjoy it? Plus for you or anyone else to insult others who enjoy visiting WDW and are willing to spend their own money is just wrong. Just wait until you see how much Universal tickets cost in 2025 when EU opens up. Yes, WDW tickets are extremely expensive, I just renewed my annual passes and they cost $2,440 for 2 passes, one with photo pass. Six Flags Diamond Elite cost us less than $600, including meals and 2 or maybe 4 front of line passes every visit. (I dont kbow if the Elite VIP will continue) However, we love the animals, festivals and shows and that is why we go not the rides. Universal will likely keep their APs lower than WDW but expect them to increase over 50% the day EU opens and that is ontop of any increases in 2022, 2023 and 2024.

 

[Californian Elitist]

It’s painful and predictable. It’s also an obvious gimmick and buzz word that’s overused to get people to believe that current management knows what they’re doing, and to continue to attract the same types of fans (this typically excludes traditionalists and those who truly understand the historical background of the Walt Disney Company). The “spoonfed storytelling” definition is spot on and accurately describes what the current folks at Disney are doing. Nowadays, there has to be a reason and backstory for every little detail in attractions.

It’s not the first, overused buzz word they’ve used and it won’t be the last.

Okay, let me get this right. Disney story telling is getting horrible and you don't like it However, your complaint is that it costs too much and so you and others can't afford it. Does that mean that if the price were significantly lower you would go and enjoy it? Plus for you or anyone else to insult others who enjoy visiting WDW and are willing to spend their own money is just wrong. Just wait until you see how much Universal tickets cost in 2025 when EU opens up. Yes, WDW tickets are extremely expensive, I just renewed my annual passes and they cost $2,440 for 2 passes, one with photo pass. Six Flags Diamond Elite cost us less than $600, including meals and 2 or maybe 4 front of line passes every visit. (I dont kbow if the Elite VIP will continue) However, we love the animals, festivals and shows and that is why we go not the rides. Universal will likely keep their APs lower than WDW but expect them to increase over 50% the day EU opens and that is ontop of any increases in 2022, 2023 and 2024.

I’m curious. Why do you assume that people who no longer want to visit Disney theme parks and want to venture out will pick another theme park, in this case, Universal and Six Flags, as their new target?

 

[Sir_Cliff]

If you compare the way Walt and even Eisner would enthusiastically tout the latest Disney ventures, yes, it comes across as completely hollow corporate-speak. I'm just waiting for Chapek to start talking about the Metaverse in the same bland, empty platitudes... oh, wait...

Walt and Eisner could at least generate your enthusiasm, even if the end result didn't hit the mark 100% of the time. With Chapek, you're almost bracing yourself to figure out the next way he's trying to gaslight you into paying more while delivering less.

What I find worse is the corporate speak making it into releases about theme park projects. First, there was "daytime activations" in regard to the genius that is KiteTails. Now take this comment from D'Amaro on the Toontown refurbishment at Disneyland:

“We are so excited to leverage Disney’s powerful brand, develop new stories and share even more magical experiences with our guests.”

Magical! I can't want to experience the leveraging of Disney's powerful brand when Toontown re-opens in early 2023!

 

[seascape]

It’s painful and predictable. It’s also an obvious gimmick and buzz word that’s overused to get people to believe that current management knows what they’re doing, and to continue to attract the same types of fans (this typically excludes traditionalists and those who truly understand the historical background of the Walt Disney Company). The “spoonfed storytelling” definition is spot on and accurately describes what the current folks at Disney are doing. Nowadays, there has to be a reason and backstory for every little detail in attractions.

It’s not the first, overused buzz word they’ve used and it won’t be the last.


I’m curious. Why do you assume that people who no longer want to visit Disney theme parks and want to venture out will pick another theme park, in this case, Universal and Six Flags, as their new target?

I didn't say they would pick out other parks to go after. However, I did mean that if people complain about prices at WDW, they should complain about prices at Universal. As for Six Flags, if it weren't for thr sadari at GA, we would not be members. They have a few rides we like and some events but if they charged anything close to what WDW charge I wouldn't belong.