Interesting Reads: Raising-or Lowering?- the Dead? (A Haunted Mansion Article)

[Big C 73]

http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/2013/10/raising-or-lowering-dead.html

I located this interesting post at Passport to Dreams Old and New and figured I would share it with you. It discusses the Haunted Mansion attraction through its stretching rooms to produce an answer to the mystery. Have a great day and I hope to see you again with more interesting reads.

 

[Soarin' Over Pgh]

I read that one yesterday, it's very interesting! If you're into the haunted mansion, do read up on "the long forgotten" blog. So much info your head will spin.

In a good, Reagan kind of way

 

[lazyboy97o]

Passport to Dreams Old & New is always a fantastic read.

 

[Clever Name]

The author has proven that he/she knows nothing about Florida geology or hydrogeology. Poor research leads to false information.

 

[Bairstow]

The author has proven that he/she knows nothing about Florida geology or hydrogeology. Poor research leads to false information.

She knows her park history, though, better than most.

http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com...0-07:00&max-results=33&start=24&by-date=false

 

[Clever Name]

She knows her park history, though, better than most.

http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com...0-07:00&max-results=33&start=24&by-date=false

Sorry but her distain for the scientific method makes her interpretation of history unreliable. I don't really care if she wishes to distort history, but trying to pass it off as serious and accurate work is laughable. After reading anything in that blog I would feel the need to go to other reliable sources to determine its validity.

 

[Bairstow]

Sorry but her distain for the scientific method makes her interpretation of history unreliable. I don't really care if she wishes to distort history, but trying to pass it off as serious and accurate work is laughable. After reading anything in that blog I would feel the need to go to other reliable sources to determine its validity.

What does the scientific method have to do with anything?
She's not conducting experiments in digging holes in Florida.

 

[Clever Name]

What does the scientific method have to do with anything?
She's not conducting experiments in digging holes in Florida.

"Where this factoid gains some life is when we inquire as to why the Stretch Room at the Haunted Mansion goes up instead of down at all, and most will readily respond: "oh, it's because of Florida's high water table!"
But I don't buy it.
Why? Well I'd first like to point out that Orlando, at the very center of the Florida peninsula, is in fact not at sea level. In fact, although Florida is indeed much nearer the water than many other parts of the country, Orlando sits a comfortable 90 feet above sea level."

She has based the entire premise of her article on her ignorance of Florida's hydrogeology. When you start out with a false premise, the rest of your inquiry is tainted. However, she's a blogger so her level of accuracy (historical or otherwise) is automatically suspect.

 

[Bairstow]

I thought she was basing the premise of her article on the original architectural drawings and the inexplicable way the first several rooms of the Florida mansion are built on a hidden incline. Even if their reasons for abandoning the elevator system are known, some of WED's other design steps and choices in the project are mysterious.

 

[cally1973]

Sea level is the height of water at the ocean. Central Florida maybe 90 feet above sea level, but the water table is much higher. As a construction worker who has worked in central Florida the water table can be as little as a few feet below the ground surface to several feet. One just needs to look at the surface of Seven Seas Lagoon to estimate the water table at MK. MK does not sit 90 feet about the water. Matter of fact they build everything up one floor to have room for everything under the buildings. There are many places in the tunnels under MK that they have pumps that pump water out to keep from flooding. Therefore it isn't to hard to understand the need for the stretch room to go up and not be a elevator down.

 

[lazyboy97o]

What part of hill is hard to understand? You would have walked up another level. The Haunted Mansion show building was already built. The elevators would have taken you down to where you currently enter.

 

[Minthorne]

I though in DL it was an elevator down because the guests then could go under the train tracks to get to the show building that was outside the berm of the park. In The MK the show building in within the berm hence no call for a costly elevator that could handle the large load of all the guests. Isn't is all about the Benjamins?

Full disclosure - I didn't read the link.

 

[cally1973]

Lets remember there is a whole level of mechanical machinery under the tracks. Also there is room in there for people to work. So if the elevator went down at the level you entered at, you still need room for all the equipment with area to work on the equipment under the tracks and animation. Not to mention mechanical machinery for the elevator. So even if you are up a level you are going down two levels. One level for the ride path the other level for mechanicals. Hence you are in or near water table. As any good builder will tell you stay away from water.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Lets remember there is a whole level of mechanical machinery under the tracks. Also there is room in there for people to work. So if the elevator went down at the level you entered at, you still need room for all the equipment with area to work on the equipment under the tracks and animation. Not to mention mechanical machinery for the elevator. So even if you are up a level you are going down two levels. One level for the ride path the other level for mechanicals. Hence you are in or near water table. As any good builder will tell you stay away from water.

The elevator would have loaded a level above where we currently load and unload.

 

[cally1973]

Would it have loaded a level above where we load now? How do you know that? Why would they do that? That's right because the water table is to high! Can't load where you are at. So because of where the water table is you load where you are and the room rises instead of a elevator going down. Thanks for proving the point.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Would it have loaded a level above where we load now? How do you know that? Why would they do that? That's right because the water table is to high! Can't load where you are at. So because of where the water table is you load where you are and the room rises instead of a elevator going down. Thanks for proving the point.

Read the article.

 

[cally1973]

I have fail to see your point.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I have fail to see your point.

The article explains everything. The showbuilding was built first right where it is currently located. You would have walked up a level and then ride the elevator down.