Interesting article on Mission Space

Scar Junior

Active Member
Wow... I love the Orlando Sentinal. They've always been on top of things. Oddly when I was on the college program the local full-time cast members bad-mouthed it quite a bit. Does it have a bad rep. in florida?
 

Kronos

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Scar Junior said:
Wow... I love the Orlando Sentinal. They've always been on top of things. Oddly when I was on the college program the local full-time cast members bad-mouthed it quite a bit. Does it have a bad rep. in florida?
Yes, indeedy. It's known down here as the Slantinel for their biased (usually anti-Disney) reporting.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Scar Junior said:
Wow... I love the Orlando Sentinal. They've always been on top of things. Oddly when I was on the college program the local full-time cast members bad-mouthed it quite a bit. Does it have a bad rep. in florida?
It is commonly refereed to as the "Slantinal" and for good reason. In most cases they will twist a story to be very Anti-Disney.

Even the article mentioned on this site does a pretty good job of slanting the story. The first page basically regurgitates all the negative stuff we have been hearing for the last 3 years. Not until the second page of the article do they get into the actual facts of the article. People that write this stuff know that the average person never reads past the first few paragraphs let alone the second page. So when a paper like the Sentinal reports on a subject and the facts don't go quite along with there agenda the facts get shoved to the back of the bus.

The Sentinal is just appealing to its target audience. I know about a dozen people that live in Orlando that I did not meet on this site or at WDW and all of them hate Disney. Granted 12 people is hardly enough of a research group to generate an accurate feel for the mood of the city but it has been my understanding that most locals really don't care for the mouse and The Sentinal caters to that in order to sell more papers. This makes good business sense but it does rightly earn them the name The Slantinal.
 

durangojim

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Did you guys catch this paragraph on page 3:

And there are flashbacks. Simulator operators have reported people who, hours after an exposure, suddenly fell off a couch or had trouble driving. Kennedy says he knew of one woman who rode a research simulator, then later became so disoriented that she poured a Coke in her ear.

Um, what kind of research is it where someone pours a Coke in their own ear, I think anyone who's pouring Coke in her ear must be a little off already :lol:

Will this become a new defense for people who do mischief at the parks? For instance if I try to stay the night at the Magic Kingdom, can I say Star Tour or the teacups made me do it?
 

DisneyGal126

New Member
LOL! so true!

The thing that has be most upset about the 2 deaths on this ride is that they were both in bad health!

"Daudi Bamuwamye, 4, died June 13, 2005. His autopsy found a rare heart disease. Two weeks ago, his family sued, charging Disney knew the ride is hazardous.

Hiltrud Blumel, 49, of Germany, died April 12. An autopsy report is due any day. A preliminary report said she had severe high blood pressure and died of a stroke."


Everyone here knows how many times you hear 'dont get on this ride if you are prone to motion sickness, spinning, in bad health...'


Granted death is a serious thing and I do feel sorry for the families who lost a loved one but I don't see how they could have sued Disney because of ALL THE WARNINGS!

Its like that lady who sued McDonalds b/c her coffee was hot... :lookaroun
 

Pete C

Active Member
Master Yoda said:
It is commonly refereed to as the "Slantinal" and for good reason. In most cases they will twist a story to be very Anti-Disney.

Even the article mentioned on this site does a pretty good job of slanting the story. The first page basically regurgitates all the negative stuff we have been hearing for the last 3 years. Not until the second page of the article do they get into the actual facts of the article. People that write this stuff know that the average person never reads past the first few paragraphs let alone the second page. So when a paper like the Sentinal reports on a subject and the facts don't go quite along with there agenda the facts get shoved to the back of the bus.

The Sentinal is just appealing to its target audience. I know about a dozen people that live in Orlando that I did not meet on this site or at WDW and all of them hate Disney. Granted 12 people is hardly enough of a research group to generate an accurate feel for the mood of the city but it has been my understanding that most locals really don't care for the mouse and The Sentinal caters to that in order to sell more papers. This makes good business sense but it does rightly earn them the name The Slantinal.

That's funny, wasn't Orlando basically a turpike rest stop before WDW set up shop there? My friend lives in downtown Orlando, and, while no Disney nut, certainly has nothing against the parks.
 

Mr Bill

Well-Known Member
Pete C said:
That's funny, wasn't Orlando basically a turpike rest stop before WDW set up shop there? My friend lives in downtown Orlando, and, while no Disney nut, certainly has nothing against the parks.
Pretty much, the Central Florida area would be nothing like it is today without WDW.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Pete C said:
That's funny, wasn't Orlando basically a turpike rest stop before WDW set up shop there? My friend lives in downtown Orlando, and, while no Disney nut, certainly has nothing against the parks.
I have a funny little story that will answer your question.

A guy I work with turns 50 this year so he was a teenager when WDW was built. As a kid he had been to and loved Disneyland. He always pestered his Father to take him back. One day his dad come to him and says "Mike good news. Disney is building a new park in Florida." Mike eagerly asked "Where dad? Where?." His father replied "Some little town in a swamp called Orlando"
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
DisneyGal126 said:
Its like that lady who sued McDonalds b/c her coffee was hot... :lookaroun
I hear this argument quite a bit. On the surface this did sound like a very frivolous lawsuit but when you get into the meat of the case you can see why it was not and McDonald's lost big time.

Legal guidelines are set as to what maximum temperature food can be served at. I am not certain which agency sets the guidelines, maybe OSHA, but they do exist. The limit for hot beverages at the time was around 160 degrees Fahrenheit. McDonald's had been repeatedly warned that they were serving their coffee far to hot, somewhere in the range of 190-200 degrees, which is just shy of boiling. The woman that was burned received 3rd degree burns from the coffee. Had the coffee been at the correct temperature the worst she would have received is 1st maybe 2nd degree burns.
 

GothMickey

Active Member
DisneyGal126 said:
LOL! so true!

The thing that has be most upset about the 2 deaths on this ride is that they were both in bad health!

"Daudi Bamuwamye, 4, died June 13, 2005. His autopsy found a rare heart disease. Two weeks ago, his family sued, charging Disney knew the ride is hazardous.

Hiltrud Blumel, 49, of Germany, died April 12. An autopsy report is due any day. A preliminary report said she had severe high blood pressure and died of a stroke."

Everyone here knows how many times you hear 'dont get on this ride if you are prone to motion sickness, spinning, in bad health...'


Granted death is a serious thing and I do feel sorry for the families who lost a loved one but I don't see how they could have sued Disney because of ALL THE WARNINGS!

Its like that lady who sued McDonalds b/c her coffee was hot... :lookaroun

We can debate this issue till we are blue in the face.. Fact is about the boy, NO ONE DIAGNOSED HIS BAD HEALTH!!! His doctor didn't even know.... So, please, stop saying they should never had him on the ride cause of his health.. Until we know ALL the facts about the case, we cannot say they have a legit case or a frivolous lawsuit.. As for the German tourist, her family will not have a case cause it was obvious she knew she had high blood pressure... I say obvious cause she had it for years.. One would assume she had to know... So, yes, SHE should not have been on it...

MS still sucks as a ride. And this article is spot on. Not anti MS or for MS...
 

DisneyGal126

New Member
GothMickey said:
We can debate this issue till we are blue in the face.. Fact is about the boy, NO ONE DIAGNOSED HIS BAD HEALTH!!! His doctor didn't even know.... So, please, stop saying they should never had him on the ride cause of his health..

I see your point about the boy and by no means meant to pluck a nerve :)
 

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