Ice Age

MrPromey

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I went to a private screening of Ice Age yesterday (Saturday) morning and my general feeling is that Disney and Pixar don’t have a lot to worry about. Although cute, the story started off very slowly and the characters seemed very contrived to me… It’s more or less a buddy movie about three odd animals (wooly mammoth, sloth and saber tooth tiger) that go on a trip to return a human baby to its tribe… In the end, the movie was cute and it probably won’t do that bad in the theaters but… The animation stunk big time. I mean, Pixar was miles ahead of them with the original Toy Story. The backgrounds were very, very unexciting. You would think that it mostly being snow would be enough but they somehow found a way to make even a flat white or grey background look skimpy for what it was supposed to be. You also won’t find any of the snow landing on fur type effects that you go in Monsters Inc… Although the overall animation of the animal characters was not that bad, their animation of humans was absolutely horrible. I swear, I could do a better job in Poser than they did. Not only do they look incredibly oversimplified, they movie like robots from some old black and white sci-fi movie… The human animation in this movie makes what they did in Shrek look ground-breaking… I wouldn’t tell anyone with kids not to go see it because kids tend to not be as picky about this sort of stuff as I am. The humor in some parts is funny and the story, as cheesy as I made it sound, ends up not being all that bad but they could have done a much, much better job with the animation IMHO.
 

MrPromey

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Originally posted by kellydriscoll
That's stinks, I was hoping for a good movie. I'm still waiting for a movie with a GOOD soundtrack!

Well, I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s bad, I just think it could have been a lot better with the graphics and animation. The main characters (which are animals) are for the most part, animated pretty well with only a few strange or unusual movements, mostly when they are doing something that something with their body couldn’t normally do (this is seen most with the sloth). It’s the lack of detail in the characters that is bad… There isn’t a lot I can say about the human characters at all, though. Again, like I said, they are some of the simplest animated renderings I have ever seen in professional use. They might have been trying to go for a ‘style’ but when the face looks like it’s made up of a few basic triangles and rectangles with a flat image-map there isn’t a lot to be said for it. In all honesty, I wouldn’t say not to go see it based in my statements, just don’t go in with high expectations and you might enjoy it more than you expected to after reading my comments. I think children will enjoy it and while there is a little humor in it that would be aimed at adults (like the Star Trek reference), I don’t think adults will be that taken with its rather unoriginal plot of bad pretends to be a good guy only to become a good guy on the way by betraying the other bad guys to save the good guys.
 

Lance

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Mr. P,

I don't know how private screenings work, do they still show Coming Attractions? If so, did you get to see the newest Episode II trailer?

I like Denis Leary, but I can't stand Ray Romano, the only animation I go to the theatre for is Pixar. I already have my flick of the week picked out: the time machine.
 

MrPromey

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Originally posted by Lance
Mr. P,

I don't know how private screenings work, do they still show Coming Attractions? If so, did you get to see the newest Episode II trailer?

I like Denis Leary, but I can't stand Ray Romano, the only animation I go to the theatre for is Pixar. I already have my flick of the week picked out: the time machine.

Nope, no trailers. I'm sure that there are different ways and circumstances that a screening could be considered 'private' - like the entire theater could be bought out. In this instance, I was a guest of the studio. They rented two screens in the morning prior to the theater opening to the public to show it to us so there wasn't anything else showing along with it. I'm pretty sure that the preview trailers are added after the movies go to the theaters under normal release along with the "please don't talk" and the theater identification stuff.
 

NowInc

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I knew Ice Age was going to be a below average film...

A few of my ex-classmates work for Blue Sky studios (in Westchester,NY..the company that did the movie) and they have been telling me for over a year now how they hated it..and they were WORKING ON IT...

They knew it..which is why they moved its release from November to now....they knew Monsters inc was going to crush it ;)
 

wdwmaniac

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Movie Name: Amount:
Monsters, Inc. (Disney) $252,338,340#
Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius (Viacom) $79,980,134 #
Shrek (Dreamworks) $264,752,789
Toy Story 2 (Disney) $245,823,397
Toy Story (Disney) $191,773,049
A Bug's Life (Disney) $162,798,565

I can't find old film grosses but I keep looking for Fox's and and Final Fantasy gross. But by the looks of it if your not Disney or Dreamworks (somethimes) you won't go big. Look at Nick's Jimmy's Neutron. So I guessing around 75,000,000 by the end of it's run. Does anyone know what the cost was to make it?

#- Still in Box office
 

NowInc

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Originally posted by wdwmaniac
Movie Name: Amount:
Monsters, Inc. (Disney) $252,338,340#
Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius (Viacom) $79,980,134 #
Shrek (Dreamworks) $264,752,789
Toy Story 2 (Disney) $245,823,397
Toy Story (Disney) $191,773,049
A Bug's Life (Disney) $162,798,565

I can't find old film grosses but I keep looking for Fox's and and Final Fantasy gross. But by the looks of it if your not Disney or Dreamworks (somethimes) you won't go big. Look at Nick's Jimmy's Neutron. So I guessing around 75,000,000 by the end of it's run. Does anyone know what the cost was to make it?

#- Still in Box office

Final fantasy cost over 100 mill to make..which is why when it flopped at the box office..it almost killed Square (the company that made it)...using 2 studios in japan and hawaii...with Maya and Renderman (expensive) workstations...and fell almost a year behind their expected deadline...

Neutron on the other hand was made by a company (whos name escapes me) down in Texas...a smaller studio with less computer power (using Lightwave)..so it cost a lot less to make..

Ice Age was made by BlueSky stuios (owned by Fox) up in westchester NY using Maya and a fair amount of workstations. Fox expects it to bomb actually...as they have laid off about half the staff over at bluesky (I knew people who were working there who no longer do thanks to that situation)...

Companies like Disney and Dreamworks who have made movies before know how to budget things better...they also know how to market the movies...so they make more. Personally I am expecting monsters inc to crush shrek when it comes out on video.dvd on sep 17th (well...its already almost there)
 

Camelot

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This morning, I saw a free screening of "Ice Age".

I laughed, I cryed, and laughed some more.

Go see the movie, if for nothing else than to follow the poor prehistoric "squirrel" throughout the movie...He's a riot! :lol:
 

NowInc

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Originally posted by StarscreamLSU



Hmm, I just thought of something...is that the same Blue Sky studios that used to do stuff for Sega? Just a curious observation...

I think so..yes...They came on the "scene" about 4 years ago by doing the CG for Fight club and other films and a short animation called "bunny" in which was a highlight of Siggraph...Fox Bought them about 3 years ago and has pretty much drove them head first into the dirt...
 

MrPromey

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Originally posted by NowInc


I think so..yes...They came on the "scene" about 4 years ago by doing the CG for Fight club and other films and a short animation called "bunny" in which was a highlight of Siggraph...Fox Bought them about 3 years ago and has pretty much drove them head first into the dirt...

From Fight Club (where the technology is hardly even noticeable) to Ice Age… Sounds like regression to me. :rolleyes:
 

NowInc

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Originally posted by MrPromey


From Fight Club (where the technology is hardly even noticeable) to Ice Age… Sounds like regression to me. :rolleyes:

I TOTALLY agree...Bluesky was the "hot" studio for a long time..and they were really stirring things up a bit..and then Fox bought them. You can see how well THAT went...
 

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