Horizons mistakes?

[A Kind Of Magic]

Horizons had tons of mistakes for instance:

The future date of Horizons by GE is set in the 21st Century Tercentennial year of around 2076.

Mistake One:

The main character is called John.

He is featured in The Carousel of Progress.

In The Carousel of Progress John is a man in his 30's or 40's age group.

This being the case John and his wife should be dead for Horizons in the Tercentennial year of 2076.

The same is true of Tom Fitzgerald the "beach boy".

In today's age he is around somewhere in his 40's I presume. How did he get to live to see the year of 2076?

Mistake Two:

How did Tommy ever get to lose his gravity boots if it has a magnetic sole structure?

Mistake Three:
Just how big is John's family?
Who are the people toward the end with the birth day party?
Just how many daughters does John have in both Carousel of Progress and Horizons combined? I did a count and its way too many for just one man.

Some one help me out here?

 

[raven]

Originally posted by A Kind Of Magic
Horizons had tons of mistakes for instance...

Well first of all this is a fictional story for the ride. Secondly it is Disney and they tend to do anything they want.

Also the technology and medical advances for the 21st century are supposed to be huge. Anything is possible.

 

[DigitalDisney]

Horizons was a fantastical (i.e. employing a lot of fantasy) ride that showed what the future could be like. Clearly, there are no claims that this is what the future will be like.

Example: Maybe I'm still waking up and can't see it, but what's the problem here? Isn't 2076 in the 21st century? We're in the 21st century right now, aren't we? And centuries last for 100 years, so, yeah.

Mistake One:
Since when are Horizons and the Carousel of Progress connected? While their themes are similar, their characters are completely indepenant. Nowhere in the preshow or ride or postshow was it established that the characters were the same.

I think that the characters names being the same is just a case of the Imagineers having fun.

On another note, the characters in the Carousel of Progress didn't exactly age much during the course of the show now, did they? Sure, they looked a little older in the final scene than they did during the beginning scene, but not enough to warrant about 80 years of history.

Mistake Two:
Do we know that this is a magnetic system? Maybe it's gravity based (centrifugal force), or maybe there is an artificial gravity field somewhere. If something is in the middle of a circle and there are equal forces from all directions, then the object will not be effected by the forces.

Based on the logic you used, how do people ever walk easily when the boots have a magnetic sole that's always on? (this is especially true for children, who have weaker legs than adults). You also can't have a weak attraction between the shoes and the walls because the shoes must support at least the entire weight of the person.

Maybe the shoes have some automatic walking mode, where the shoes are only magnetic when someone is standing still.

There are so many different options and scenarios here, that we could discuss it for weeks.

Mistake Three:
You're connecting the families again. Don't look too deep into the family situation. If you look at the families as being completely independant of each other, then everything will make sense.

 

[Logan5]

Horizons bigest mistake???

I think horizons bigest mistake was something that was imposible to fix.....

The fact that horizons moved people so well there was hardly ever a line...

And if people arent waiting two hours for a 5 minute thrill ride then it must be replaced....


if you can dream it, you can do it!!

 

[Buzzes Dad]

Logan5 that is a great point. People did move very easily through the line hence not a lot of wait time.

 

[Kwit35]

First of all, I think you are thinking a little to hard. I don't mean that in a bad way, just think you are making more of it then there really is.
Second, though they are using the same family, I think it is more in homage of the COP. I don't think it is the exact same family as they aged chronologically through time.
And as for the magnetic boot, I think that was just for comic relief. It is just pretend
Anyway, this was one of my favorite rides. It offered so much.
I am really glad that you are so into it, that you would take the time to analyze it like this.

 

[speck76]

Mistake Three:
Just how big is John's family?
Who are the people toward the end with the birth day party?
Just how many daughters does John have in both Carousel of Progress and Horizons combined? I did a count and its way too many for just one man.

My late grandfather had 21 siblings...so, it can be done. (Big french-canadian Catholic family)

 

[mrtoad]

It is just pretend

WHAT!!!

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Oh yeah, you forget to mention the BIGGEST Horizons Mistake of all . . .

Closing it .
Speaking of Horizons, it looks like the Horizons model is going to win my contest. 15 minutes left. Get your votes in . . .

 

[Expo_Seeker40]

Why is it that people always have this trouble with the Carousel of Progress and Horizons! LOL grrrrrrr :brick:

The carousel family represents the quintessential and leave it to beaver family of their time. They are like the ultimate, korny, and mildly scarey family in America.

In the many versions of the Carousel of Progress we know that atleast in the 1964 version, we the audience see progress every 20 years.

In 1900 Jane [now called Patricia] was most likely 13. James [who for many years never was given a name] was most likely 11.

They seem to have a cat that pops in an out of the timeline. This mysterious little critter has been doing this since 1964, even when the show ended with Christmas 1960, it was a mystery as to how the cat got there sitting next to Mother on the couch.

Another puzzle is the mysterious daughter or girl in 1900. She is there with Mother using the clothes washer mathingy. Since 1964 we still don't know who she is or where she came from. I assume she is a girl next door, most likely a friend of James.

There many other puzzles to the carousel of progress I could ramble about, but anyways back on topic.

While we the audience see progress in the show roughly ever 20 years with the excpetion of the current 60 year gap, the family still represent sthe "perfect" family of that specific time period. They only age 2 to 3 years with every Act of the show, which is fun I guess rather than having them constantly stuck as a young family.

Horizons was the sequal to the Carousel of Progress. It went beyond what the current show was doing. Because we were in the "Tomorrow" Act if you will, mother and father and their new dog [cause rover and kitty died along with grandma and grandpa] they are now grandparents because James and Jane/Patricia are grown up and got their own life going. So reagaurdless of how far we are in the future they only age slightly.

Hope this helps! :wave:

 

[Lynx04]

Since when are Horizons and the Carousel of Progress connected?

Horizons was a sequel to COP. Instead of showing how the american family has developed from past to present, it shows some concepts of how we could live in the future. Note in one of the earlier scenes on the tube tv you here the COP theme song. If you want the complete history of the Horizons check out http://www.extinct-attractions-club.com/video-HORIZINS.html

 

[speck76]

Both attractions were at the time sponsored by GE. The CoP that was running at that time is not the same as it is today. Today's CoP brought back "It's a great big beautiful tomorrow", but if you remember, the CoP at that time was the "Now it the time" version.

 

[Expo_Seeker40]

When Horizons opened in 1983, the carousel of progress in 1983 still had its original new years eve 1970 scene from the original version of "Now Is The Time".

General Electric dropped their sponcorship of the carousel of progress in 1985. One of the reasons they did this was to go full force with their new attraction Horizons. In 1985 the second version of "Now Is The Time" occured. This is the version that many people recall, rather than the earlier 1975 version. In the 1985 version all refrences and visuals to General Electric were dropped, and Act IV was redone to be New Years Eve 1980.

Incedently when Horizons had lost its sponsorship of General Electric in 1994, the carousel of progress, in time for it's 30th anniversary, closed in 1994, and reopened in 1994 with the original theme song "There's A Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow". Act IV was updated to represent the way the year 2000 was seen from a 1994 stand point. Now the ride has a 60 year gap into an outdated and unrealistic view of 2000, and though the original song was brought back, it is a far cry as a tribute to the original 1964 or even 1967 carousel of progress.

So when Horizons was going from 1983-1994 with General Electric, they used "There's A Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow" in the 1930s scene as a tribute to Horizons roots back to the original Carousel of Progress. From 1994-1999 both Horizons and the Carousel of Progress had "Beautful Tomorrow" in their attraction, thus familiarizing people even more with that famous tune. :wave: