Help....dining reservations

Eggman

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My 180 days is on april 1st, yet the parks calendars only go out till september 15.
My trip is september 28 to october 6, how can i plan ahead not knowing park hours?
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
I usually use a historical calendar to make an educated guess: https://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/hours/september18.cfm
Yup, you can feel pretty confident in following historical calendars. This site has a calendar I follow for our trip this September as well (though I know yours goes into October and that's not filled out yet): https://www.wdwmagic.com/calendar.htm
No need. TouringPlans has the real park hours (currently through October 2) and updating one day at a time for the most part.

 
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nickys

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No need. TouringPlans has the real park hours (currently through October 2) and updating one day at a time for the most part.


To be fair, TP are second guessing the hours based on historical data. So they’re just doing the donkey work for you.

They do not know what Disney will actually release. And there’s also the fact that those released hours are quite likely to be adjusted as we get closer. Posted hours are never final until the day before, even the same day occasionally.
 
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belledream

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To be fair, TP are second guessing the hours based on historical data. So they’re just doing the donkey work for you.

They do not know what Disney will actually release. And there’s also the fact that those released hours are quite likely to be adjusted as we get closer. Posted hours are never final until the day before, even the same day occasionally.
Yup! I did use TP earlier on in my planning and saw some slight adjustments when the wdwmagic calendar came out. Nothing drastic or trip-altering. Both were helpful baselines. :)
 
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CaptainAmerica

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To be fair, TP are second guessing the hours based on historical data. So they’re just doing the donkey work for you.

They do not know what Disney will actually release. And there’s also the fact that those released hours are quite likely to be adjusted as we get closer. Posted hours are never final until the day before, even the same day occasionally.
This is not correct. TP is very clear when park hours are estimates and when they're real. They have the real hours before they're up on Disney's website.
 
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nickys

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This is not correct. TP is very clear when park hours are estimates and when they're real. They have the real hours before they're up on Disney's website.

Really? I honestly didn’t know this. I’m totally intrigued now, especially since I’m a pretty active “liner” over there on the forums ........ I’ve always thought they just had a very good history of guesstimating the hours. :oops:

Off to investigate further!
 
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CaptainAmerica

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Really? I honestly didn’t know this. I’m totally intrigued now, especially since I’m a pretty active “liner” over there on the forums ........ I’ve always thought they just had a very good history of guesstimating the hours. :oops:

Off to investigate further!
Yep, see below. They're giving actual hours through October 2, though Disney's website only goes to September 22.

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The software is actually sort of bad at predicting hours by itself. For example, they were predicting 8am openings and 7am EMH every day at Hollywood Studios this coming summer because the software was looking at LAST summer when TSL opened and factoring that into the prediction.
 
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nickys

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Yep, see below. They're giving actual hours through October 2, though Disney's website only goes to September 22.

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The software is actually sort of bad at predicting hours by itself. For example, they were predicting 8am openings and 7am EMH every day at Hollywood Studios this coming summer because the software was looking at LAST summer when TSL opened and factoring that into the prediction.

But that doesn’t say anywhere that these are the actual hours. I’m confused as to why would Disney give them the hours to post before putting them up on their own website.

OTOH, I know what you mean about the software predicted hours based on previous years. AK is a case in point.

@lentesta , can you clarify for me please? Are you actually getting these hours from Disney, or is your team taking the historic data and somehow calculating / predicting the hours?
 
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CaptainAmerica

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But that doesn’t say anywhere that these are the actual hours. I’m confused as to why would Disney give them the hours to post before putting them up on their own website.
Yes it does, look at the chart.

October 3 (and every day after): "Park hours are estimates!" warning
October 2 (and every day before): No warning

@lentesta , can you clarify for me please? Are you actually getting these hours from Disney, or is your team taking the historic data and somehow calculating / predicting the hours?
They're not the only ones. Kenny the Pirate posts them even before TouringPlans.
 
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lentesta

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But that doesn’t say anywhere that these are the actual hours. I’m confused as to why would Disney give them the hours to post before putting them up on their own website.

OTOH, I know what you mean about the software predicted hours based on previous years. AK is a case in point.

@lentesta , can you clarify for me please? Are you actually getting these hours from Disney, or is your team taking the historic data and somehow calculating / predicting the hours?

We're using similar days from the past.
 
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nickys

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I'm thinking he's answering your lone post out of context.

My next trip had weird DHS hours but it updated correctly when the "Park hours are estimates!" warning went away.

Fair enough.

I liked the old trick for seeing the park hours for your entire trip by hovering over the calendar on MDE. That seems to have gone. But since I subscribe to TP, I get automatic notifications when the park hours change anyway. And i fully expect them to change right up to the last minute, so I would never rely on posted hours anyway.

I plan around the ADRs we have, unless we can change them. Any extra hours are a bonus.
 
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