For all you wonderful night time WDW photographers.

BrennaRN

New Member
Original Poster
I need your help desperately!!! I do alright stuff with my D40, but have two questions.
! - Do ya'll shoot in RAW all the time?
2 - How in the world are you all getting the fantastic night time shots? Could you please help me for when I go in December with all those lights.
Thanks!!!!

P.S. Missed this forum while I was recovering. I'm glad I'm back.
 

BSikor

Active Member
I shoot in RAW most of the time especially when doing night shots since It gives you more control when developing.

To get the best night shots it is all about a tripod and a long exposure. I also find that making sure all of your color settings are correct plays a big part of it. I know a lot of people here like to play with the colors (vibrance and saturation) but if your colors stink when taking the picture, no amount of play will help. Keep it natural and you will have great results.
 

soccer9miahamm

New Member
Hi!
I love shooting at night in WDW! I have a point and shoot digi (Canon S3 IS) and a Nikon D300. I do not shoot in raw all the time as it takes up so much more space. Instead, I normally shoot with a fine jpg. Also, unless your camera/lens or both have image stabilization, a tripod is a must. Even with image stabilization, I end up using a railing for additional support. If you would like, I could post some of my night shots for examples and tell you what my exposures were.
 

fngoofy

Well-Known Member
Hi,
Please do post your pics with their meta data, I just got a canon G9 and I am looking forward to hitting the world next year and taking some good shots.
 

Raven66

Well-Known Member
I just got a D40 and I'm so excited to take pictures of all the Christmas lights. I'm actually a little overwhelmed with all the buttons and such.:eek: So I can't wait to read everyones tips.


Welcome back Brenna!:wave:
 

WDWFigment

Well-Known Member
First of all, welcome back!!!

Second, I always shoot in RAW. There was once a big argument about doing so here, so don't be surprised if there are some heated opinions. Here are (in my opinion) the benefits of using RAW, and the drawbacks:

1) It gives you more opportunity to fix any errors in choosing an exposure when you took the shot. You will have a lot more latitude doing this in RAW than in JPG. For those who aren't professional photographers, or for those pros who aren't perfect, this is nice.

2) The space is no longer an issue with the falling prices of memory cards and external hard drives. If you have the money to buy a camera that can shoot in RAW, you have the money to buy some bigger memory cards and an external hard drive. Seriously, with the way mail in rebates and sales on these things are nowadays, space is a pretty lame excuse. I've never paid more than $10 for the 4GB Extreme III SDHC cards I use, and a 500GB hard drive is around $50.

3) For SpectroMagic and dark rides, shooting in RAW is the functional equivalent of having a lens that can go two stops lower (without anyone noticing). I have been amazed at some of the shots that I've recovered from dark rides by shooting in RAW. I'll be taking a f/1.4 lens on our next trip, and I still plan on making up some ground with RAW.

4) It gives you more latitude in performing 'artistic' post processing. With a single RAW file, you can make a pseudo HDR image. You simply cannot do this with a single JPG file (if you want it to look decent).

Now the cons:

1) It's not for the lazy. I spend an average of 5 minutes MORE per image that I process from RAW. However, there is the option to batch process, if you're lazy.

2) It's not for the perfect. If you're ungodly awesome, you can just shoot it right the in the first place. So for the rest of us...

I'm sure there are more pros/cons for the RAW debate. My opinion--shoot in RAW for any shot that is important to get right, unless you're perfect, or are willing to burst off a ton of shots with multiple exposures.

As for a tripod, I always use one for night shots. Unless you have a camera capable of quality high ISOs so you can do handheld shots, I think it's a must. Setting your camera on random objects may be an option, but if you have a DSLR, you spent a lot of money on a camera, are you really going to trust balancing it on a trash can? Plus, you are then limited to the compositions that your "fixed" tripod allows. Get a compact tripod and throw it in a bag or locker. It's really not that much to lug around each day.

Additionally, I use a remote release for additional sharpness. For the D40, you can get the ML-L3 remote from a third party on Amazon for about $14 shipped. Definitely a great deal. You can also use the self timer on the camera, but that's a pain, and you're well worth spending the $14. Otherwise, the camera moves a little when you hit the shutter release.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
I shoot in RAW, but to be honest a cable release and a light weight tripod are far more important than file format, camera type or thread location.
 

Disney05

Well-Known Member
Man I just ruined a bunch of potentially really good night shots at the World last week. No doubt, a tripod is a must. Setting the camera on timer helps me too.
 

BrennaRN

New Member
Original Poster
Thanks everyone. I didn't shoot in RAW this past May and think I've missed a lot of great opportunities. I do have a tripod that is extremely light weight. I'll just lug it around at night because the shots will be worth it in the end. Thanks for all the tips. I'm going to shoot some antique tractors today and I'm thinking I'm going to shoot in RAW and play with the feature before the world in December.
 

jmicro59

Member
I shoot in RAW, but to be honest a cable release and a light weight tripod are far more important than file format, camera type or thread location.

I agree except with the camera. If I'm shooting at night then its my Canon 1Ds Mark III otherwise it's one of my 30, 40 or 50D. The sensor is better suited for night shooting in the 1Ds. I also tend to use a mono-pod unless it's static shots that I'm shooting.
 

CleveRocks

Active Member
I don't own a shutter release ... I use the camera's timer to avoid camera shake for tripod shots.

I also tend not to bring any sort of tripod with me ... I make do with substitutes such as railings, tops or trash cans, short walls, and then an extra shirt or hoodie or something from my backpack to prop the camera and zoom lens (if used) in the proper angle. Sure, this poor man's lo-tech method isn't as versatile and sturdy and efficient as a tripod or monopod, but I don't want to schlepp one along with me.
 

Hoop Raeb

Formerly known as...
Tripod, either full size or a little mini one with a trash can. If you're hand holding, bump the ISO as high as it will go. The image will get grainy but most night shots, you can't tell. Also, shoot as much as possible. For every 20 shots of crap, you'll get one that's a keeper.
 

dolbyman

Well-Known Member
just came back from a trip to disneyland paris .. and did a whole lot of nightshots... as already said most important thing is stabalize that cam .. I used a monopod , when 1/3 retracted it's pretty stable so you can shoot without shaking ... I also made some HDR pics .. can't wait how they turned out :D
 
Fast lens... unfortunately there aren't any fast ones for a Nikon that autofocus... I use a f1.2 lens but because I don't have a split-image focus screen I probably lose 75% because the focus isn't as perfect as I want.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
I need your help desperately!!! I do alright stuff with my D40, but have two questions.
! - Do ya'll shoot in RAW all the time?
2 - How in the world are you all getting the fantastic night time shots? Could you please help me for when I go in December with all those lights.
Thanks!!!!

P.S. Missed this forum while I was recovering. I'm glad I'm back.

1 - No, i shoot everything as if it were Chrome and save it in JPeg Normal/Large. RAW doesnt help much unless youre trying to blow it up to billboard size.

2 - How? Tripod. Fast lenses. Years of experience. Mainly a tripod.
 

dolbyman

Well-Known Member
here is a sample of my dlrp nightshots .. 3 exposures and a monopod

schlosssandhdr.jpg
 

jmicro59

Member
1 - No, i shoot everything as if it were Chrome and save it in JPeg Normal/Large. RAW doesnt help much unless youre trying to blow it up to billboard size.

2 - How? Tripod. Fast lenses. Years of experience. Mainly a tripod.

I disagree with you RAW statement. RAW gives you full control of the picture and it's properties. Also RAW does not lose it's image quality when retouched.
 

dolbyman

Well-Known Member
I disagree with you RAW statement. RAW gives you full control of the picture and it's properties. Also RAW does not lose it's image quality when retouched.

but as dave does state so often . if you use the correct settings there is no need for post. A full quality jpeg straight from the camera is pretty ok for retouching .. unless you want to use the information in the raw (more dynamic range for brighten or darken or colorspace)
 

jmicro59

Member
but as dave does state so often . if you use the correct settings there is no need for post. A full quality jpeg straight from the camera is pretty ok for retouching .. unless you want to use the information in the raw (more dynamic range for brighten or darken or colorspace)

You're making my point for me. "pretty ok" is not good enough for me, especially when I consider the effort I put into taking my pictures.
And there is not a photographer who does not "touch" their photos aftwards in some fashion. If they say they do not, they are not being truthful. A few years ago, on chrome, as PhotoDave stated you either got the shot or you didn't. Today this is just not the case. A boastful statement makes not a fact, just alot of wind.
 

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