Fingerprinting at the Parks

MiRi

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Original Poster
I was in class today and the subject of fingerprinting at WDW was brought up. The professor supposedly had gone this weekend to WDW and she was amazed that they are fingerprinting now at the entrance. I said that they have been doing that for a while now and they do it to make sure that you are using your ticket, not someone elses. I am also pretty sure it has to do with security concerns. One girl questioned why do they need all that information and what do they do with it? Can anyone tell me what they do with the data? Thanks.
 

Lauriebar

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Disney does not use fingerprints. They use a system called biometrics to insure that the person who first activates the ticket is the person who uses it from then on. I do not believe that any data other than the fact that your finger measurements match the first use of the ticket is taken.
 

Captain Hank

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Yup, Lauriebear's right. No fingerprints, just finger measurements. The system takes the measurements and feeds them through a formula that spits out a number. I think there are only 100 or so numbers, but that's sensitive enough to catch people not using the pass that they originally did. The system does have the occasional hiccup, so if it does not register a match, the attendant asks for a picture ID to verify the identity of the ticket holder. Also, this has been done for years with Annual Passholders, but it was just recently implimented for all guests purchasing the new Magic Your Way tickets.
 

MiRi

Member
Original Poster
The system does have the occasional hiccup, so if it does not register a match, the attendant asks for a picture ID to verify the identity of the ticket holder.

Yea, I hate when it messes up.
 

Lauriebar

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se8472 said:
I never thought that people would walk away thinking they have been finer printed.

I can see how it could give someone that impression though. Usually no one is really paying attention and are so excited about getting into the park that they just blindly follow directions and then think about what happened later. Then all they remember is a finger scan and then assume it took their fingerprints.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I always thought it was a print scan as well until I signed up for this site and learned otherwise and there are plenty of conspiracy theorists that think the same. :hammer:
 

celticdog

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I could be wrong, but what I was told that the finger scanner is only needed for annual pass holders. We didn't need to scan, when we used our room key/UMP.
 

PhotoDave219

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MiRi said:
I was in class today and the subject of fingerprinting at WDW was brought up. The professor supposedly had gone this weekend to WDW and she was amazed that they are fingerprinting now at the entrance. I said that they have been doing that for a while now and they do it to make sure that you are using your ticket, not someone elses. I am also pretty sure it has to do with security concerns. One girl questioned why do they need all that information and what do they do with it? Can anyone tell me what they do with the data? Thanks.

It does not take your fingerprints. Rather it measures the widnt and length of your fingers and creates a unique algorhythm that it associates with your ticket. They do this to ensure that your ticket is your ticket and is not your friend's ticket or things of that nature.,

It also kills the illegal ticket resellers down on 192.

It is now required for every ticket except for 1 day PH, if i recall. (Althought i think for this week and last week theyve reverted back to the old system of only cast/AP holders) I believe that room key tickets might also be exempt from this.. but im not sure.
 

Captain Hank

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celticdog said:
I could be wrong, but what I was told that the finger scanner is only needed for annual pass holders. We didn't need to scan, when we used our room key/UMP.
All-guests using the Magic Your Way passes are required to be scanned. No other passes, except AP's require this. However, all non-scanning passes have been phased out, so you will need to scan unless you bought your passes prior to the MYW introduction. Confusing enough? :)
 

HennieBogan1966

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Scanned? What do you mean Scanned? This is some kind of secret Government project isn't it? I heard what Walt did with the Government many years ago. You aren't fooling me!!!
 

disneydata

Well-Known Member
All new MYW adult tickets require biometrics. For some odd reason, only some resort keys need it. My guess is some people get the UPH (no biometrics) and others just add on a MYW ticket to their package. If you get a chance (and have an extra minute or two), take a look in the reader. All it is is a reflective surface (bottom) and in the back is the series of cameras.

Once the fingers are lined up properly, the cameras take the picture and finds certain "points" to measure the structure of your fingers. It creates a long string of numbers then attempts to match it to the original number on the server from the first time you used it. If its the first time, it creates the number and stores it. This is why if it gets messed up the first time, it won't work again until it gets reset.

There are a few factors that can mess up the biometric readings. The system does allow for some variances, but if too many are different, it will set it off. If you wear rings, it may not work after the first time. My fiancee did her's the first time with her ring and it never worked again until I told her to remove the ring and have it reset. Also, the sun plays a role in it as well. If there is too much light, the picture will be messed up. The devices are set up to recalibrate every hour, but sometimes that's not enough. If the device realizes it needs to be calibrated, it will just stop working until you manually recalibrate it. This way, the ticket needs to be over-ridden and ask for ID.

Once people learn how to use it and get used to it, it won't be much of a bother to guests. I've always used it with my ID and it's like second nature now.
 

HennieBogan1966

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Maple Leaf? Now Canada is involved? Uh-oh. Look out now. Next thing ya know, they're going to overthrow the government, take over Disney, and turn it into an NHL Theme Park. Oh, wait, the NHL doesn't exist anymore.
 

PeeplMoovr

Active Member
hcwalker16 said:
The system does have the occasional hiccup, so if it does not register a match, the attendant asks for a picture ID to verify the identity of the ticket holder.

For some reason, the system only registers a match for my fingers about half the time. When it doesn't, the CM's never ask me for ID. They just push a button and wave me in. I must look trustworthy.

I'm not. :animwink:
 

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