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Epcot's Future

Boardwalk-empire

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I apologize if this has been posted already but here goes...

Is anybody else as worried as I am about the upcoming changes to Epcot? The most recent change was bringing in Frozen. Now I hear rumors of Guardians of the Galaxy and Cars land. I love those movies and all but for me it makes no sense to bring them to Epcot. It feels like Epcot might turn into a Hollywood studios with world showcase attached to it. They seem to be running away from what Epcot was supposed to be as a park. Yeah it's out of date but why not just keep the theming and just update it? They managed to update Soarin and Test Track and they are both still incredibly popular. What do you all think?
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I apologize if this has been posted already but here goes...

Is anybody else as worried as I am about the upcoming changes to Epcot? The most recent change was bringing in Frozen. Now I hear rumors of Guardians of the Galaxy and Cars land. I love those movies and all but for me it makes no sense to bring them to Epcot. It feels like Epcot might turn into a Hollywood studios with world showcase attached to it. They seem to be running away from what Epcot was supposed to be as a park. Yeah it's out of date but why not just keep the theming and just update it? They managed to update Soarin and Test Track and they are both still incredibly popular. What do you all think?
Nothing about Cars land has been mentioned in relation to Epcot, however, no I'm not worried about it because even though Epcot will not be the Epcot of 1983 it needed something to give it a shot. If that is making it a little more like MK then that will be the saving grace that is needed to keep so much of it still intact. It have become a festival park and people like myself do not attend those festivals. Food, wine or flowers. I just love the park and if having a few things in that would have been out of the question in the original Epcot in order to save it from complete irrelevance then I support it. It's only negative because we want to think it is. No amount of miracles will be able to resurrect the old because it fell out of favor with the general public (not the diehard Epcot Fans, but, there weren't enough of us to support it). If we can keep World Showcase basically intact and most of Future World nearly intact, then we will all be winners. Things that don't change stand a good chance of dying on the vine.
 
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IMFearless

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To be honest, current management seems to think that homogenizing the Disney experience across all for parks is the way to go. Essentially, we would end up with four versions of the Magic Kingdom, which whilst wouldn't be a problem I think it would potentially make the whole experience less repeatable and more samey. Personally, I think they need to do the opposite. Look for ways to clearly differentiate the four offerings from one another:

Magic Kingdom stays as is with updates to less popular attractions but kept true to its core theme.

Epcot needs to move more heavily towards science, geography, history type topics with pavilions that link to these themes such as medical advancement, emerging technologies, food production, it could look at robotics, architecture, transport. The key would be in making the experiences both engaging and repeatable. That is why Test Track and Soarin' work well. I also think the park could have more focus on history, in the way that Spaceship Earth celebrates how we have got to where we are now. This would solve the problem of things going out of date. I could certainly think that a Pavilion sponsored by Apple for example could work, where they could showcase and sell new products but have the pavilion as an experience within itself, almost an Apple Store on Speed. Providing the experiences are fun they will be repeatable.

Studios I'm not really sure what to do with, but I would think they could successfully move it towards thrill rides and this would be successful. Aim for the teens/young adults too cool for Disney otherwise crowd. Go after the groups that would otherwise head to Universal/Busch Gardens etc. If the rides are good enough people will want to go. This could be mixed with slightly longer Broadway style shows which if kept fairly fresh could work. The issue with the shows is they are left in place for far too long. I would also move the hours so that the park is open later in the evening, possibly opening slightly later in the morning in order to accommodate this. Have a good mixture of shows (which could all be pre-bookable so that guests could hop across in the evenings after a meal and watch a performance. If the seating areas were large enough these could be fairly lavish with fully costed sets and to a higher standard than typical theme park shows. Up-sell preferred seating for those with the big $. I also think the park suffers from its visual theme, there are too many plain buildings - the studios theme is long gone so they need to bury it now and make the park as immersive as the other three.

Animal Kingdom feels cohesive as it is, Pandora feels like a good fit in my opinion. The current theme and range of offerings feels strong. Just more of the same would work.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
To be honest, current management seems to think that homogenizing the Disney experience across all for parks is the way to go. Essentially, we would end up with four versions of the Magic Kingdom, which whilst wouldn't be a problem I think it would potentially make the whole experience less repeatable and more samey. Personally, I think they need to do the opposite. Look for ways to clearly differentiate the four offerings from one another:

Magic Kingdom stays as is with updates to less popular attractions but kept true to its core theme.

Epcot needs to move more heavily towards science, geography, history type topics with pavilions that link to these themes such as medical advancement, emerging technologies, food production, it could look at robotics, architecture, transport. The key would be in making the experiences both engaging and repeatable. That is why Test Track and Soarin' work well. I also think the park could have more focus on history, in the way that Spaceship Earth celebrates how we have got to where we are now. This would solve the problem of things going out of date. I could certainly think that a Pavilion sponsored by Apple for example could work, where they could showcase and sell new products but have the pavilion as an experience within itself, almost an Apple Store on Speed. Providing the experiences are fun they will be repeatable.

Studios I'm not really sure what to do with, but I would think they could successfully move it towards thrill rides and this would be successful. Aim for the teens/young adults too cool for Disney otherwise crowd. Go after the groups that would otherwise head to Universal/Busch Gardens etc. If the rides are good enough people will want to go. This could be mixed with slightly longer Broadway style shows which if kept fairly fresh could work. The issue with the shows is they are left in place for far too long. I would also move the hours so that the park is open later in the evening, possibly opening slightly later in the morning in order to accommodate this. Have a good mixture of shows (which could all be pre-bookable so that guests could hop across in the evenings after a meal and watch a performance. If the seating areas were large enough these could be fairly lavish with fully costed sets and to a higher standard than typical theme park shows. Up-sell preferred seating for those with the big $. I also think the park suffers from its visual theme, there are too many plain buildings - the studios theme is long gone so they need to bury it now and make the park as immersive as the other three.

Animal Kingdom feels cohesive as it is, Pandora feels like a good fit in my opinion. The current theme and range of offerings feels strong. Just more of the same would work.
No doubt you are correct and someday that whole mindset may change back, but, for now the public had ignored Epcot in droves. The only think that saved it were the festivals. New life has been injected into an old friend that will, at least for now, rejuvenate it. People may very well tire of it being pretty much the same, but, as long as they just add side notes and not eliminate the entire philosophy then it can sustain and, who knows, maybe someday the original concept will once again regain favor with the public.
 

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