EPCOT Wand?

ADreamAbove

New Member
Original Poster
I'm not looking to instigate a riot nor am I professing an opinion in any way, shape or form... but would someone mind explaining to me why everyone so abhors the EPCOT wand? I realize everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but there's such a widespread, vehement aspersion of this thing that I would love some insight. Am I missing something?

Thank you!
 

CoffeeJedi

Active Member
There are 2 main reasons, which are interrelated, yet distinct.

Spaceship Earth is an absolutely gorgeous design. The simplicity of the monolithic geodesic sphere is breathtaking. It needs nothing to add to it, as its essentially perfect the way it is. Many of us feel that adding the wand robs it of its elegant beauty and power. It makes it look cheap, as the hand and wand are essentially tacky 2-dimensional pictures bolted on to a very industrial looking metal scaffold. The curvy font used for the word Epcot is non-standard and clashes with that aforementioned simplicity, not to mention that its pointless to have a huge sign, guests should know what park they're in.

More importantly, Mickey's hand and wand come from the Sorcerer's Apprentice, which is about music and magic. Epcot is the "real-world" park of technology, and international cultures and the future of humanity. Thematically, its completely separate from everything else in the park; there's absolutely no connection between it and anything found within. The globe of Spaceship Earth represents the Earth itself; the communication theme of the show inside connects it to all other Futureworld pavilions through its discussion of technology, and to The World Showcase through the ideals of world-peace and breaking down communications barriers. Adding a Mickey arm cheapens it, it degrades that message. Yes, Mickey Mouse is a powerful international symbol beloved the world over, but this theme park isn't about him, its about us, all of us.
 

mousermerf

Account Suspended
Not to mention there was no wand in Sorcerer's Apprentice. The best i can tell, the wand when it said 2000 was like a dancer's batton. The word 2000 was spelled out by the ribbon tail, which fit the whole millenium theme.
 

CoffeeJedi

Active Member
/ponders
um
/thinks
Wuh... yeah anyway! I never even thought of that! Tinkerbell has the wand, not Sorcerer Mickey! The power was the hat itself. What a bunch of-

Just one more reason to hate that stupid thing, it doesn't even make sense from within the context of the story!

Actually, now that I think about it, The Sorcerer's Apprentice is a terrible analogy for Epcot. Epcot is about expanding Horizons and reaching new potential. TSA is a story about respecting your elders, recognizing your limits, and tempering your actions with forethought. All good lessons to be sure, but secondary to the central theme of Epcot.
 

Vernonpush

Well-Known Member
There are 2 main reasons, which are interrelated, yet distinct.

Spaceship Earth is an absolutely gorgeous design. The simplicity of the monolithic geodesic sphere is breathtaking. It needs nothing to add to it, as its essentially perfect the way it is. Many of us feel that adding the wand robs it of its elegant beauty and power. It makes it look cheap, as the hand/wand is essentially a tacky 2-dimensional picture bolted a very industrial looking metal scaffold. The curvy font used for the word Epcot is non-standard and clashes with that aforementioned simplicity, not to mention that its pointless to have a huge sign, guest should know what park they're in.

More importantly, Mickey's hand and wand come from the Sorcerer's Apprentice, which is about music and magic. Epcot is the "real-world" park of technology, and international cultures and the future of man-kind. Thematically, its completely separate from everything else in the park; there's absolutely no connection between it and anything else found within. The globe of Spaceship Earth represents the Earth itself; the communication theme of the show inside connects it to all other Futureworld pavilions through its discussion of technology, and to The World Showcase through the ideals of world-peace and breaking down communications barriers. Adding a Mickey arm cheapens it, it degrades that message. Yes, Mickey Mouse is a powerful international symbol beloved the world over, but this theme park isn't about him, its about us, all of us.
Thank you for stating it so well! :sohappy:
 

mousermerf

Account Suspended
A good place to start to understand Epcot is to research Buckminster Fuller and his concepts for Spaceship Earth.

Disney did not create the term Spaceship Earth. Disney never gave Buckminster credit for their ride. However, the entire park is pretty much based on his ideas and philosphies.
 

cb3k

Member
I completely agree that the wand takes away from the splendor of the geosphere, and would not be opposed to seeing it go. I do however feel, that with the wand in place it gives a distinction to EPCOT that it is indeed a "Disney theme park". I feel that so many tourists are so confused as to what is Disney, Universal, Sea World...etc. I am happy either way, as long as they dont compromise what is inside the geosphere.
 

WildcatDen

Well-Known Member
In the minority here.

I like it almost as much as my kids. It is almost a big reminder "Welcome to Epcot where more Disney Magic Awaits"

I know, stick to my day job. . .
 

haveyoumetmark

Well-Known Member
I completely agree that the wand takes away from the splendor of the geosphere, and would not be opposed to seeing it go. I do however feel, that with the wand in place it gives a distinction to EPCOT that it is indeed a "Disney theme park". I feel that so many tourists are so confused as to what is Disney, Universal, Sea World...etc. I am happy either way, as long as they dont compromise what is inside the geosphere.
Sure, a Disney theme park, but so much more too.
 

Vernonpush

Well-Known Member
I completely agree that the wand takes away from the splendor of the geosphere, and would not be opposed to seeing it go. I do however feel, that with the wand in place it gives a distinction to EPCOT that it is indeed a "Disney theme park". I feel that so many tourists are so confused as to what is Disney, Universal, Sea World...etc. I am happy either way, as long as they dont compromise what is inside the geosphere.
Unless they don't go into any shops (Mickey & Friends on everything) or restaurants (look at the cups and napkins), or aren't there for the rope drop ( with Mikey & friends), or don't go into The Seas With Nemo & Freinds, or don't view The Circle of Life in The Land Pavillion, or miss every Character Meet & Greet in each World Showcase Pavillion, or don't look at an ice cream cart's Mickey Premium Bar. Sure, they could think that they are at Universal.:lol:
Of course, they are the dead horses that need to be beaten!:lol:
 
Unless they don't go into any shops (Mickey & Friends on everything) or restaurants (look at the cups and napkins), or aren't there for the rope drop ( with Mikey & friends), or don't go into The Seas With Nemo & Freinds, or don't view The Circle of Life in The Land Pavillion, or miss every Character Meet & Greet in each World Showcase Pavillion, or don't look at an ice cream cart's Mickey Premium Bar. Sure, they could think that they are at Universal.:lol:
And the fact you had to drive under that big Welcome to Walt Disney World sign to get there.....:ROFLOL:


Of course, they are the dead horses that need to be beaten!:lol:

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