Eisner, what did he do???

[Kramjam33]

I have a question....I know that there have been problems with the CEO Michael D. Eisner, but what are they? I have heard that there have been scandles, but what exactly did he do? I see a lot of people on these forums showing high resentment toward him, and I would apreciate it if someone would tell me what exactly he did. Thanks alot.

-Mark-

 

[bluesnut]

Save Disney

This posts Roy's actual resignation letter as well as some other information. Roy Disney and a friend (also a resigned board member) set this up to get support.

One thing I know that is listed in the letter is that Eisner told the board members that any conversations that they had with Roy had to be reported in full back to Eisner.

Just go to that site and read.

 

[General Grizz]

Yup..SaveDisney is a great resource. Don't forget the individual sections for family/employee/shareholder/consumer/vision - they are all chockful of information!

Disney Co. Board has a LOT of threads on this...check them out.

 

[bluesnut]

Don't Forget

Sign up to get updates and support. They have a free bumpersticker too!

 

[raven]

I wrote my letter of support to Roy yesterday.

 

[WDWSwashbuckler]

Where do I get ahold of one of these bloody bumper stickers, mate?

 

[civileng68]

his issue

Well it's a matter of time before someone comes in here screaming defending him. So, if you do support him, please keep it civilized, like we are.



Eisner's issue is #1: He let an original Disney Family member leave the company. I dont care if Roy was on the board or working trash cleanup, he's a Disney and should never EVER be let to leave the company for the reasons that happened.

#2) According to reports about Eisner, he's not the pretty nice guy he seems to be on stage. He's evidently very much like Hitler. If you don't agree with him, heads roll. If you say one thing about any policy of his, heads roll. It's like a dictator. Now everyone's afraid to confront him because they dont want to be fired, which is what he wants. Now he gets approval on anything he wants.

As a CEO I would never want my presidents and board members to agree with everything I say. I'd want their honest opinions so that maybe I wouldnt make an ignorant decision on something that can be avoided. My father in law is a CEO of a major nationally broadcasting satellite company in South florida, which is where I work right now, and he completely disapproves of "head nodders". He respects the people who respectfully disagree with him, because he's made alot of great decisions and avoided alot of bad ones because of their disagreements.

#3) Walt surely wanted to make money on the parks. However, he wanted to make money to keep the parks going and make them bigger and stronger. HOwever, Eisner wants the money to make ALL of his OTHER companies strong along with Disney. This means less money goes back into WDW, hence layoffs and cutbacks. Cutbacks will always happen due to the economy and it goes up and down, but Eisner has the money in so many other interests that the surplus money is not there to cover times of need.

#4) Eisner's interest is not purely Disney. He is interested in running so many other companies that he has lost Walt's vision and the "family" factor. Eisner is not about keeping Disney about the "family". He's not a very "clean" guy. Just look at the other TV companies he's in charge of and look at some of the movies and shows they produced. Most of them you'd never know the CEO of Disney had anything to do with it. it's disappointing.

#5) We've seen cost cutting measures that most don't even notice beyond the obvious. Whenever someone gets on him about cutting something back, he blames it on us, the fans. He says there was no "interest". He took early entry away at one point because "lack of interest". There was no lack of interest, he didnt want to pay the cash. After enough heat, he brought it back.

Also, I truly believe Eride was a way to cut back. I love it when I stay on the property and it's not a bad thing if you are on the property. However, before Eride the parks were often open regular hours until the time Eride is not open on many times. Doing this means that only parts of the park are open, The people who stay to ride the rides have to pay extra, which probably covers some of the hourly pay for the people still working. Also, notice that they are becoming more and more rare, which means what? The parks are just closing three hours earlier in some cases than they did before Eride.

Now, Eisner supporters say "well Eisner has people under him that make these decisions, not him". Well you're right and wrong.
First off, as a CEO he is responsible for any decisions made under him, that's part of the territory. he hires the people under him. Also, he has everyone wrapped around his finger. Literrally his employees fear him. So, basically anything he wants is done, and he'll make it look like their fault.

The man is not a very nice guy behind the scenes evidently and that's what has turned us against him. He's not working in Disney's interest. Us fans are about Disney, not ABC and ESPN. I love ESPn but im a DISNEY FAN FOR DISNEY. Someone needs to be there who works FOR DISNEY!

 

[bluesnut]

here you go

Originally posted by dadisneynutter
Where do I get ahold of one of these bloody bumper stickers, mate?

www.savedisney.com

There is a little yellow box that says put your email address in here to support. Then it takes you to a place to fill out your name and address and there is an option to get a free bumper sticker. It's that easy.

:wave:

 

[raven]

I've gone 'round and 'round with people about this. Some people really like him. Some people I know that like him have met him and said that he was a very nice person and gave them respect. So I can see how it would be difficult to hate the guy after people have met him.

Heck, I met Bill Clinton when he was president before all the scandel stuff came out and it was hard for me to believe it because I thought he was still the nice guy I met.

Oh! And bluesnut, sorry. REDWINGS RULE!

 

[civileng68]

right

Originally posted by raven
I've gone 'round and 'round with people about this. Some people really like him. Some people I know that like him have met him and said that he was a very nice person and gave them respect. So I can see how it would be difficult to hate the guy after people have met him.

Heck, I met Bill Clinton when he was president before all the scandel stuff came out and it was hard for me to believe it because I thought he was still the nice guy I met.

Oh! And bluesnut, sorry. REDWINGS RULE!

See this is what I also feel: Many people support him soley based on the fact that they've either met him or seen him speak or on tv, whatever. They see this nice caring man. However, they do not see him behind the scenes. I dont either but, I have to somehow feel that he's not that nice of a guy with evidently the MANY people claiming of his demeaning attitude.

 

[bluesnut]

Ha

Originally posted by raven
Oh! And bluesnut, sorry. REDWINGS RULE!

Nice of you to pick up on that. Sorry but you know I have to disagree. Although we are huge Brett Hull fans so we may not be as bad about it as some. GOOOO BLUUUUESS!! GOOO HULLIE!!

Oh and I agree with you about how some people are like that when they meet someone. But we have to let their actions speak for them because some people can manipulate others very well.:goodnevil

 

[bluesnut]

Question

If we get Eisner out do you think Roy will return to his posts?

 

[jodez21]

Re: his issue

Originally posted by civileng68
Well it's a matter of time before someone comes in here screaming defending him. So, if you do support him, please keep it civilized, like we are.

All I really have to say to your post and all u prejudice Eisner haters is: Eisner is a business man, making decisions that support all his companies. If he try’s to hire every1, make the parks perfect in every single way, ect ect without making a single cut or layoff, there would be NO MORE DISNEY because there would be NO MORE MONEY. So basically no matter how hard you try, u can’t please everyone.

Civileng 68, u said please keep it civilized, but you’re the one acting childish. You’re the one who’s making childish assumptions and you don’t have any good reasons for your arguments. For god’s sake, you're whining about him "supposedly" not being a very nice guy!!! Do u know him? Have u ever met him??? I DIDNT THINK SO! Don't judge a book by its cover!! You even compared him to Hitler!! Come talk to me once you're finished elementary school you baby! Like how do you come up with stuff like this!! You’re just mad because Roy Disney wasn't doing his job to his full capabilities and Eisner realized this and took charge.

All I really want is for you and all you Eisner haters to get your head out of your a$$'s and smarten up. The world revolves around money, not love and peace and good deeds like you and all you other people lost in a Disney trance think it does. As much as we all want it to, it doesn’t, and it will never happen. Don’t get me wrong, I do love Disney, but like honestly, some people need to snap back to reality, this has been going on for to long. GROW UP.

 

[raven]

Re: Question

Originally posted by bluesnut
If we get Eisner out do you think Roy will return to his posts?

Eisner is in until at least 2006 no matter what. He can do alot of damage in that time too. We are pedicting that all of the Disney Stores will be closed by the time the election comes around. They are taking away the perks of the store CMs trying to get them to leave so they don't owe them anything.

And oh bluesnut, I lived in St. Louis for 4 years before moving to Detroit area. Wings still rule!

 

[bluesnut]

jodez21
Have you read www.savedisney.com?

I am not disagreeing with your feeling that you cannot please everyone. But this is much more than just about some layoffs. Roy has been a part of the company since he was old enough to. I don't think he would get in a mad huff and leave just cause they wouldn't play by his rules. As for Eisner he has done some great things for the company. When he first started he did what the company needed. All companies must move forward and change management becomes stagnant after a while. Even Roy says in his letter at the time they hired Eisner Roy felt he was the best man for the job and Roy was part of hiring Eisner. All I am saying is things change. Go read www.savedisney.com PLEASE! Because I once felt the same as Kramjam.

 

[raven]

Re: Re: his issue

Originally posted by jodez21
All I really have to say to your post and all u prejudice Eisner haters is: Eisner is a business man, making decisions that support all his companies. If he try’s to hire every1, make the parks perfect in every single way, ect ect without making a single cut or layoff, there would be NO MORE DISNEY because there would be NO MORE MONEY. So basically no matter how hard you try, u can’t please everyone.

Civileng 68, u said please keep it civilized, but you’re the one acting childish. You’re the one who’s making childish assumptions and you don’t have any good reasons for your arguments. For god’s sake, you're whining about him "supposedly" not being a very nice guy!!! Do u know him? Have u ever met him??? I DIDNT THINK SO! Don't judge a book by its cover!! You even compared him to Hitler!! Come talk to me once you're finished elementary school you baby! Like how do you come up with stuff like this!! You’re just mad because Roy Disney wasn't doing his job to his full capabilities and Eisner realized this and took charge.

All I really want is for you and all you Eisner haters to get your head out of your a$$'s and smarten up. The world revolves around money, not love and peace and good deeds like you and all you other people lost in a Disney trance think it does. As much as we all want it to, it doesn’t, and it will never happen. Don’t get me wrong, I do love Disney, but like honestly, some people need to snap back to reality, this has been going on for to long. GROW UP.

Whoa! You are going to open a HUGE can of whoopa$$ now.

I have worked for the company. I have also grown up loving Disney, and seeing the drastic change in the company made me look into what was causing it. Well look! Who makes the ultimate decisions? That's right, Eisner. I'm not saying he is a bad business man at all. He just made some bad decisions that made millions of people very upset and he doesn't care what people think and that's NOT how Disney is ran. Walt is turning in his grave. Eisner is simply MONEY-oriented, not guest-oriented like the corporation was ment to be.

Remember, you are new to the boards. You have no idea how many people you have just pi$$ed off.

 

[civileng68]

Re: Re: his issue

Originally posted by jodez21
All I really have to say to your post and all u prejudice Eisner haters is: Eisner is a business man, making decisions that support all his companies. If he try’s to hire every1, make the parks perfect in every single way, ect ect without making a single cut or layoff, there would be NO MORE DISNEY because there would be NO MORE MONEY. So basically no matter how hard you try, u can’t please everyone.

Civileng 68, u said please keep it civilized, but you’re the one acting childish. You’re the one who’s making childish assumptions and you don’t have any good reasons for your arguments. For god’s sake, you're whining about him "supposedly" not being a very nice guy!!! Do u know him? Have u ever met him??? I DIDNT THINK SO! Don't judge a book by its cover!! You even compared him to Hitler!! Come talk to me once you're finished elementary school you baby! Like how do you come up with stuff like this!! You’re just mad because Roy Disney wasn't doing his job to his full capabilities and Eisner realized this and took charge.

All I really want is for you and all you Eisner haters to get your head out of your a$$'s and smarten up. The world revolves around money, not love and peace and good deeds like you and all you other people lost in a Disney trance think it does. As much as we all want it to, it doesn’t, and it will never happen. Don’t get me wrong, I do love Disney, but like honestly, some people need to snap back to reality, this has been going on for to long. GROW UP.

And yet again, my point has been made. Just look up.

 

[no2apprentice]

Re: Re: his issue

Originally posted by jodez21
All I really want is for you and all you Eisner haters to get your head out of your a$$'s and smarten up.

You are the one who needs to "smarten" up. Agree to disagree and state your opinions, but please be careful how you choose to disagree. No reason to be insulting.

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

Re: Re: his issue

Originally posted by jodez21
All I really have to say to your post and all u prejudice Eisner haters is: Eisner is a business man, making decisions that support all his companies. If he try’s to hire every1, make the parks perfect in every single way, ect ect without making a single cut or layoff, there would be NO MORE DISNEY because there would be NO MORE MONEY. So basically no matter how hard you try, u can’t please everyone.

Civileng 68, u said please keep it civilized, but you’re the one acting childish. You’re the one who’s making childish assumptions and you don’t have any good reasons for your arguments. For god’s sake, you're whining about him "supposedly" not being a very nice guy!!! Do u know him? Have u ever met him??? I DIDNT THINK SO! Don't judge a book by its cover!! You even compared him to Hitler!! Come talk to me once you're finished elementary school you baby! Like how do you come up with stuff like this!! You’re just mad because Roy Disney wasn't doing his job to his full capabilities and Eisner realized this and took charge.

All I really want is for you and all you Eisner haters to get your head out of your a$$'s and smarten up. The world revolves around money, not love and peace and good deeds like you and all you other people lost in a Disney trance think it does. As much as we all want it to, it doesn’t, and it will never happen. Don’t get me wrong, I do love Disney, but like honestly, some people need to snap back to reality, this has been going on for to long. GROW UP.

You're a shareholder, right? A true Disney fan would never ever settle for a good buisness manager! If he wants to be good just buisness wise he is more than welcome to leave the company and go run Microsoft or any other company! This company is about team work, details, family fun, pushing the limit and not producing carnival attractions and direct to home video sequels! The Eisner of the 90s was the type of person that everyone agreed that he was the right one! Creating some of the best including: DLP, Lion King, B&B, The little Mermaid, Splash Mountain, ToT and growth of the animation department! The Eisner of 2000 forced out the last Disney from the boards and produced bad quality movies and cheap theme park attractions such as DCA and Dino-Rama and the failing WDSP! The only good created was based on Walt's work (POTC) and with the help of Pixar (Finding Nemo).... It's sad that even Disney fans think buisness wise only, and can't remember the true meaning of Disney!

 

[jodez21]

Re: Re: Re: his issue

Originally posted by raven
Whoa! You are going to open a HUGE can of whoopa$$ now.

I have worked for the company. I have also grown up loving Disney, and seeing the drastic change in the company made me look into what was causing it. Well look! Who makes the ultimate decisions? That's right, Eisner. I'm not saying he is a bad business man at all. He just made some bad decisions that made millions of people very upset and he doesn't care what people think and that's NOT how Disney is ran. Walt is turning in his grave. Eisner is simply MONEY-oriented, not guest-oriented like the corporation was ment to be.

Remember, you are new to the boards. You have no idea how many people you have just pi$$ed off. [/QUOTE

i couldnt really care less how many people i ed off, every1 is entitled to have an opinion (no civileng68, eisner hasnt got to the forums yet(sarcasm), and hopefully i will turn some heads here and make people realize how childish they are. times change. there will never be another walt disney no matter how hard you try. just because theres one good person in someones family doesnt mean the rest of them are (good ex: simba, scar lol). roy is just whining because he was replaced and embarassed. remember this, disney world was doing very poorly until eisner came and saved roy. savedisney.com all i can say is dont believe everything you read, remember, roy wants his job back so he'll probably pull every dirty trick in the book to get it back. thats some more business for ya. If roy was soo good, then y did the company choose eisner instead of roy?

and ps for civileng68 i was talking about you and all your little disney friends crying about eisner. your being the nazi here, not eisner. by not giving him a chance