DVC and DCL?

ncstate7991

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Original Poster
We went to WDW in March, but this time it was our first trip with a child, and what fun we had! It has made me start to think about doing DVC. One of the many things I was wondering about is if you can use DVC points for a Disney Cruise? If so do you know where a point chart would be? It is something that we might do 2 or 3 times over the course of 50 years if it is offered at a decent point level. Thanks in advance!
 

Cubs Brian

Active Member
The point value is very high IMHO. As an example from the 2009 vacation planner a 7 night value season cruise Aug.29th or Sept.26th Hurricane season per person inside stateroom start at 138 points. Ocean views from 145 points and balconies from177 points. 3rd person from 86 points. So for the absolute lowest priced 7day cruise for 3 people is 362 points. We bought our points at $102.00 pp. So if you gave that a "cash price " It comes out to $3692.00 + tips. But it's your choice. 3 nite cruises start from around 65 points per person. you can find DCL cruises cheaper if you pay cash on a lot of discount cruise websites.
 

Cubs Brian

Active Member
I would also like to add that DVC for my family is a pretty good deal. We've used our points 4 times now since we bought in in Oct.2007 and going again in Jan 2011 with a 2bdrm at AKL Kidani Village.
 

Maddog57

Member
Please remember that when you go on a Disney Cruise the meals are included. You can eat about 24 hours a day because there is food everywhere. That is why the points may seem high at first.
 

Phonedave

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I posted the below in another thread here, but it would have been hard to find because the topic was about adding on, not about using points for cruises specificaly. It was in response to a specific question about buying at Vero Beach for the purpose of crusing, but it is still topical here.

The short answer is if you plan on using points for cruises as you said, once or twice in 50 years, then its fine. But if you are planning on buying points for the sole purpose of finanacing cruises, it is a loosing propostion. Just one word of warning, cruising can be addictive.

-dave



Just an FYI, using points for Cruises is not a good idea. It is much, much MUCH cheaper just to book a cruise with cash.

If it is a once in a while type thing, thats a differnet story. But to purchase points with the intent of using them for crusing on a regular basis does not make financial sense.

Just for a quick example, a 4 night cruise on points in the 2010 Value season (Sept) in a category 10, (deluxe inside stateroom) is 84 points per person for the first two people. Add two kids ages 6-12 for 56 points each.

You can check out the point charts here
http://dvcnews.com/index.php?option=...147&Itemid=121

So that comes out to 280 points. Let's say you are paying $5 a point fees each year (thats a pretty fair average - Vero Beach is quite a bit more per point, thats why it's selling for $50 per point), that comes out to $1,400 dollars in dues for those points. Then you need to add in that $95 fee for booking a cruise on points, so that brings you up to an almost $1,500 direct yearly cost for the cruise.

That same cruise with the same stateroom and people is now available for $1967.88 cash. Chances are it was a LOT cheaper 4 or 5 months ago.

So the cruise is costing you $500 more if you pay cash. But, you had to pay out roughly $14,000 to get those points in the first place (at your $50 Vero Beach). Disregarding interest and the time value of money, you would have to go on roughly 28 cruises to break even. And, since there is a time value of money, and your DVC contract does not last that long, you will never break even.

Not to mention that the number of points needed for a cruise is not fixed, like the total number of points at a resort are. They could bump the cruise points requirements up over time. The have for the most part gone down from 2009 to 2010, but that may be to bring them more in line with the cruise pricing. When cruising goes back up, I am pretty sure the points will as well.

-dave
 

Phonedave

Well-Known Member
Please remember that when you go on a Disney Cruise the meals are included. You can eat about 24 hours a day because there is food everywhere. That is why the points may seem high at first.


They are still high even including the food. When you price out the cash value of the points vs. how much you would pay for the cruise in cash, the points come out behind.

It has nothing to do with what you get, it has to do with when you compare cash to points, points loose.

-dave
 

dreamscometrue

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Using DVC points is by far 'best value' at DVC resorts. Exchanges through RCI are quite decent too, as you can get a week at a nice place, usually 1 bedroom, for 160 points. The Disney Collection (including DCL), Adventurer Collection and Concierge Collection give you options, but not great value at all IMHO.

Disney Collection: A stay at a WDW moderate with a standard view in 'value' season, for example, uses 144 points, while a Garden view room at the Poly in 'value' season requires 229 points! I love the Poly, and all the mods, but I can get more 'bang for my buck' at DVC resorts.

DVC Resort: A stay in a studio at any of the WDW DVC resorts during the same season will run you only 83-105 points, depending on the resort.
 

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