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Does WDW Wheel chair policy get whacked by miracle chairs ?

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MAGICFLOP

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WDW did a great thing by making the rides available to wheel chair bound patrons. With that said, should people in miracle chairs be able to get the same benefits.

My last trip I saw too many miracle chairs that scammed (in my impression) the system. I think that is not fair in a lot of cases.

Does anyone else see miracle chairs as problem?
 

nolatron

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Am I correct in assuming what you call a miracle chair is what I call a motorized scooter (aka ECV)?

If not, then I have no idea what a "miracle chair" is.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
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otherwise... I see this thread going downhill really fast.
 

CleveRocks

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Unless you hear someone saying, "Wow, we're scamming the system!", then you have no way of knowing that someone is doing so just by looking at them.

There are probably 100 different medical reasons that someone could look "normal" yet have a legitimate clinical reason why they can't stand for long periods of time or walk long distances. Off the top of my head, there are all types of back injuries, hip injuries and knee/ankle injuries that don't stop someone from walking a mile or so normally, but that over the course of a long day would leave the person unable to walk anymore without intense pain.

And then there's the stuff like severe asthma, and stamina and endurance from a stroke or trauamtic brain injury, and the list can go on and on.

In any of these, you wouldn't be able to look at someone and know their legitimate medical issue. You wouldn't even know it if you see them spring up from the scooter and walk into the normal line without a limp or without any other obvious difficulty ... think of, for example, someone with a bad back injury that if just fine until their muscles fatigue (like from walking a few miles)and then they can't even stand up from that point on, or someone with a bad heart condition who is restricted from doing all the necessary walking but is well enough to ride non-thrill rides.

There are some ride/attraction queues that are totally wheelchair accessible, and in such cases, NO ONE, whether in a wheelchair or an ECV, should be permitted front-of-the-line status. With a ride such as Spalsh Mountain, it's obvious that someone in a wheelchair or ECV can't walk through that queue, so of course they need some sort of alternate arrangement. But the queue for Soarin' for example, seems totally accessible for any wheeled conveyance, and it's truly unfair that someone in a wheelchair or ECV would be granted front-of-the-line status ... the independence movement is about removing barriers and it is not about putting people up on a pedestal and bending over backwards for them "just because."

Anyway, they're called "invisible disabilities" ... yes, there can be some scammers out there. But wouldn't you rather let a few scummy people scam the system instead of stopping legitimately needy people from enjoying the magic of Disney? :)
 

MAGICFLOP

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Sorry I should have explained it better.

Miracle wheel chair = a wheel chair that that rolls up and someone gets up and walks onto the ride vehicle. 100 yrs ago the would have claimed "It's a miracle"

I am not implying that people that in chairs are not injured. But I have been going to WDW yearly for 25 years now. It seems like each year now there is an onslaught of scooters.

This last trip I notice many times, a chair and then a group of people that are taken right to the front of the line and then up pops the person in the chair right on to the ride. The whole line queue is stopped as they are brought right in. If people don't feel that they can walk the parks and want a scooter, No problem just park it outside and walk on in...
 

MAGICFLOP

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Anyway, they're called "invisible disabilities" ... yes, there can be some scammers out there. But wouldn't you rather let a few scummy people scam the system instead of stopping legitimately needy people from enjoying the magic of Disney? :)

I lean to erring to give them the benefit of the doubt, but it seems to be getting out of control.

Some are just "edible disabilities" :lookaroun
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
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And some people are just looking to spread troglodytic prattle. What's your point?
 
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